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D/s vs "50's" - 1/7/2008 7:28:58 PM   
ligar59


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Status: offline 		I was reading another post and did not want to hijack it by posing this question…
With the exception of scening, what do you see as the main differences between a D/s relationship and one that is referred to as a “50’s relationship”
Thanks for your input in advance
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/7/2008 7:54:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Number one difference in my opinion is that the so called "50's relationship" was distorted by the media.  It showed perfection obtained in 30 mins.  No one dealt with hogged covers (double beds), toilet seats left up (they didnt have toilets), housework was well organized by a stay home mom, well behaved kids, and a breadwinner who made enough money to provide for everyone.
We view things through fondness that colors our sight in rose and shades over the issues of boredom, dissatisfaction, and not quite keeping up with the jones'es.
Life is lived in the present. 
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/7/2008 7:57:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		i don't think that Ward ever hancuffed June to the bed and flogged her. Although Ricky did spank Lucy a few times on the show. i think the difference is the physical kink acts that make up the difference.

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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/7/2008 8:50:57 PM   
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/7/2008 8:59:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fifties (or "traditional") relationships, like Biblical relationships, are gender based Dominance.  Though they can be useful terms to help the uninitiated gain some appreciation for many (certainly not all) power exchange dynamics.
 
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/7/2008 9:12:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ds has a leather collar while 50s has a pearl one.

A 50s household runs based on outward expectations of behavior. The man is expected to be the head of the household, the woman the housewife. This isn't always true in a Ds relationship. Both of my husbands were WAY better at housework than I am.

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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 2:35:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ligar59

I was reading another post and did not want to hijack it by posing this question…
With the exception of scening, what do you see as the main differences between a D/s relationship and one that is referred to as a “50’s relationship”
Thanks for your input in advance


For me, D/s is a dictatorship centered around power and without a gender influence and 50's is a partnership which is not centered around power and does have a gender influence.

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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 4:40:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		the "50s relationship" is something i personally couldn't handle - i rather live in the present than in the past. i barely own/wear dresses and/or heels ...plus vaccuming in pearls and heels is not my style. besides, being a single mom in this era was a society no-no ...and i don't think the June Cleaver look wouldn't bold well at a rock concert.  

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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 9:13:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Difference to me is one word “Domination”

1950’s lifestyle to me is for people wanting more traditional roles that both are in agreement with and may or may not have kinky sex in the bedroom but it is just for pleasure purposes. The dominant leads in the relationship and the submissive supports them.

D/s relationships have more overt feelings of the dominant controlling aspects not normally associated with normal life. Kinky things may just be for pleasure but might also have discipline things done as well as punishments.


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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 9:35:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		D/s can be any gender/age/relationship combination you'd care to throw together and it can be structured to come into play only after the wee ones are tucked in.
 
"50's" came with strict gender rules, marriage and the attitude that one's offspring came AFTER one's marriage, even if they were born prior.

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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 9:37:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		The 50's is all about status.  People mix it up with it being male dominated and it isn't that simple.  It is about hero and heroine worship, for women who serve, it was a traditonal role, and men catered in return with material goods.  It was when more was best.  For females in the controlling role, it was about being pampered, glorification, the luxuries and being the centre of attention - to have it all.  It was about specific roles.
 
50's is nothing more than status and materialism.
 
Ds is domination and submission.
 
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 10:31:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks to me like the 50's lifestyle is just like D/s, ie whatever you imagine it is, LOL.

So I'll toss mine in - for ME 50's lifestyle is following more traditional roles. Husband is provider & head of house. Wife is in charge of the household. So yes defined roles. For us it frees up alot of energy previously wasted in determining who did what - from grocery shopping, getting gas in the car, taking out the trash, cooking the meals, ect. Our cash flow isn't as high as it used to be, so that took sacrifice on both our parts but a simpler mode of living gives us both a better quality of life, better meals, a cleaner house, less stress on both of us and more free time to boot and immeasurably more respect for each other. I don't know of any other way to put it, so there it is.

I'm not so sure about the glorification of it *ponder* but it can be a mutually satisfying arrangement. Certainly no glorifying going on over here, and I clean in jeans and a t'shirt. But that's the common dress of the day right? Back then women didn't wear pants so of course they cleaned in a dress! more than likely not their good Sunday dresses, and with an apron. I could use an apron, more pockets is always good


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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 12:39:56 PM   
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Ds has a leather collar while 50s has a pearl one.




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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 12:42:14 PM   
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A pearl necklace, if you will?




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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 12:45:51 PM   
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 12:49:43 PM   
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 12:49:57 PM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		Well, 50's wasn't restricted to woman serving man - it was the year of the glorious filmstar,and I have known female dominants who live 50's in the same way those were glorified.  Silk stockings, beautification and adoration with man servants.  They insisted it was 50's lifestyle retro - even down to their boudoir - who am I to argue.  That's what I meant by glorification.
 
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 12:52:48 PM   
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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 1:57:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		A 1 income household was easier then because there were alot less possesions. Tv's had just came out, there was no cable or internet.  My Grandparents managed to send their 3 kids to parochial schools have a tv, and a nice car, my Gramps was a janitor at a race track, then at a theater. And my Grams sold Avon.

But anyways sorry for the digression.  50's household in no way appeals to me, because all it represents to me is a huge letdown (for women.) after WW2.  Though I do like alot of the music and the cars from the 50's, the music because it was for runners for the music today, and the cars because that is where most people lost their virginity, (including me.)

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RE: D/s vs "50's" - 1/8/2008 2:11:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sabella


So I'll toss mine in - for ME 50's lifestyle is following more traditional roles. Husband is provider & head of house. Wife is in charge of the household. So yes defined roles. For us it frees up alot of energy previously wasted in determining who did what - from grocery shopping, getting gas in the car, taking out the trash, cooking the meals, ect. Our cash flow isn't as high as it used to be, so that took sacrifice on both our parts but a simpler mode of living gives us both a better quality of life, better meals, a cleaner house, less stress on both of us and more free time to boot and immeasurably more respect for each other. I don't know of any other way to put it, so there it is.

I'm not so sure about the glorification of it *ponder* but it can be a mutually satisfying arrangement. Certainly no glorifying going on over here, and I clean in jeans and a t'shirt. But that's the common dress of the day right? Back then women didn't wear pants so of course they cleaned in a dress! more than likely not their good Sunday dresses, and with an apron. I could use an apron, more pockets is always good




I like your description!

We have pretty defined roles here at our little castle. I have bread dough rising in the oven as we speak, because I am the house wife. I volunteer at the kid's school and in the community, I cook, clean, do laundry etc. Master wins the bread, and I defer to him for all final decisions.

Although we do have defined roles, we jump in to bail the other person out from time to time. Hubby lost his job a few years ago, I got a night job. I had complications during pregnancy, he worked all day, then came home and scrubbed toilets and vacuumed. We do what it takes to get things done, but when things go smoothly, we both know what our job is.

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