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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/6/2008 7:58:50 AM   
Amaros


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Communications definitely - if there is no communication the odds are very much against the relationship working for you over the long term.

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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/6/2008 8:51:36 AM   
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Getting needs satisfied just get me back where I started before the need kicked in....
getting what I want always adds something new.
I have masochistic needs......temporary, because by the nature of my masochism then I am insatiable but once temporarile satisfied then I am back to square one...
and I have submissive wants....which act agaianst that masochostic tendency...I want to be with Him more than our S/m willpermit.......I have only recently come to understand that my own s/m is a dynamic within myself which would have been inposible only last year to communication.. So I have been and always will be like a see-saw..........impossible to contain or control or be responsible to unless I explain.
Does that help?

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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/6/2008 9:17:37 AM   
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I have to ask.  Why didn't you buy your own alarm clock?

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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/7/2008 11:48:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gwendolyn

     I'm not really sure where to begin. I wasn't even sure if I wanted to post it, but here I am. I could just really use some advice. A bit of background is in order, I guess.
 
    We have been together for a little over a year. By 'together', I mean living together. When I first moved in, things worked in the way that we had discussed prior to sharing a roof. It was what I would call a typical 24/7 D/s dynamic. I have no idea how to describe the dynamic of our relationship now. That's the reason for so much confusion. We had an aurgument this afternoon that is as much my fault as it is his. I woke up without enough time to go to work. Was several hours late, in fact. Since I started this job, we've shared an alarm clock. He sets it to get up in the morning and, before he leaves, sets it again so that I get up for my job. Two days ago he started using his own, but still set mine before he left. I apparently made a grievous error in assuming that he would set mine again, as has been the case for nearly two months now. When I called to ask him why he had not done it this morning, he brushed both me and the situation off. He seemed angry with me. I lost it and said some very harsh things, things I both did and didn't mean.
     My dilemma is this: I called him a bit later and left a message telling him that I was very confused as to where we stood in our relationship. One day he tells me I'm a grown woman, but the next he'll become angry if I used the debit card without permission. His reply was that our dynamic was one of a '50's style household. Part of it is my own fault for not seeing the signs that he obviously didn't want the D/s dynamic. I just don't know what to do anymore. I feel like my needs aren't being met anymore. Over the months, I've tried to show him and tell him that I needed those elements in my life. He seems to be avoiding it, though. I'm just wondering if anyone has any advice as to how to handle things from here. Is the D/s aspect something I need, or just a want? I both want the answer and am afraid of it at the same time.


Seems to me that you have explained the situation to him countless times, so communication seems overated.  Pack your stuff and move on.

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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/7/2008 7:21:42 PM   
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Well it sounds like to me that he is very unhappy with the state of the relationship and wants a change of some sort. I am guessing he is unable to tell you because he may feel you will be hurt to some degree. The two of you must continue to communicate actually, he needs to start it seems. It has been suggested you bring in a third party of sorts which maybe a viable idea, finances allowing. You deserve to have your lifestyle choices met, by someone, be it your current partner or someone else. Yes, in my opinion, wanting a D/s  relationship is a need, not a want

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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/13/2008 4:14:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY


Despite any individual claims to the contrary, most people cannot live in a high-protocol, intense D/s structure non-stop.  (Note that I use "D/s" to encompass all levels of power-exchange relationships.)  Ordinary life interferes and usurps our time and energy.  Living an average, vanilla lifestyle is the norm because quite frankly, that is what comes easiest for people... it's what we grew up with, takes the least effort and provides the most comfort.  Injecting a D/s dynamic takes extra thought and effort, and sustaining that effort can be draining.
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I suspect that if you were to poll the people who live in happy D/s relationships, you'd find that the majority had a period of struggle with their dynamic before they found the level that satisfied their wants and needs and could be easily maintained.  It's a balance of expectations.
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It's hard enough balancing our own expectations as individuals... building a life with another requires balancing expectations for the relationship, while supporting our own individual expectations and without interfering with our partner's expectations.




i agree with these points. i live in a 24/7 D/s Relationship and have done so now for the last 3 and a half years.
To say that it is easy would be a lie, to say that it is the most rewarding and fulfilling relationship i have ever had would be the truth.
It is about finding the balance and it is an everchanging balancing act as circumstances around you change and develop.
i would not change a thing, but it takes patience, commitment and total honesty... and a realisation of E/each others expectations too.

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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/13/2008 4:46:18 PM   
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Reading my last comment I may have been reading too much into it - to simplify things, it's your job, your responsibility. You were lulled into thinking he'd be taking care of it for you; he might have been testing you, to see if you were paying attention, he might have just been being nice and happened to forget, but the bottom line is, it's still your responsibility, has nothing to do with the BDSM dynamic, it's just being an adult, and it'll save you a lot of grief.

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RE: Needs vs Wants - 1/18/2008 8:48:38 PM   
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need vs. want.

that's always been my problem. what i need, i don't want.

i need ownership, contract, no way out, TPE, total control, bondage, chastity, humilation, permanent markings, control over money/friends, etc.

but, i don't want it, i wish i could turn vanilla. my kink has screwed up every relationship i have had. i've lost many together guys because of my needs and instead i've met alot of leather wackos.

of course also, i've never been fulfilled in a vanilla relationship. it's always like the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other. plus i'm on the cusp of Sagittarius and Scorpio, talk about bi-polar! LOL!

im freakin' 46, if i dont become a slave soon, what Master is going to want an old slave?

i know this is stupid but sometimes i feel like i need a no way out scenario, so i can't back down or get cold feet and learn to live my needs. that's why i need ink and rings to show i will be property forever. i know there is a big taboo on non-consenual/abduction, etc. so i won't even talk about that.

is there anyone else consumed by their demons? how does one finally let itself go...............?





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