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JohnSteed1967 -> HWP (12/29/2007 5:26:16 PM)

Per the US Center for Disease Control:
 
  • Percent of non institutionalized adults age 20 years and over who are overweight or obese: 66.3

  • Percent of non institutionalized adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 32

That means that roughly only 33% of America is (HWP) height weight proportionate. SO that if lets say you were to eliminate oh 10% of those because of age, or "Chemistry" your dating pool is now down to about 23%.
 
Now, lets take out another 10% because they are married, or homosexual or priest for what ever reason they are not dating. That brings your dating pool down to about what 13%.
 
Now, lets take out another 10% because they have socailly unacceptable habits, smoking, drinking, drug use.
 
Now that leaves us with about 3% of those three precent, some of them will not be in your geographic area, some will have STD's and the like. What precent will that leave us that are not in any of these catagories and are HWP????
 
But Wait you said that you have to have someone that is HWP??? Good LUCK. I think I would rather find someone that I can love because of the person that they are on the inside than because they way a few more pounds than they should.



Aileen1968 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 5:28:41 PM)

How much do you weigh?



JohnSteed1967 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 5:29:44 PM)

6'2" and 400lbs



grlneedstolearn -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 5:30:56 PM)

A lot of Doms are looking for this in a submissive/slave which may or may not rule out a lot of people



Aileen1968 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 5:39:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967 
But Wait you said that you have to have someone that is HWP??? Good LUCK. I think I would rather find someone that I can love because of the person that they are on the inside than because they way a few more pounds than they should.


You're not implying that someone who prefers someone HWP is shallow are you? 

For me it's much more a matter of health.  Being obese will eventually lead to health problems.  I've seen it happen to many family members.



farglebargle -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 5:39:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

6'2" and 400lbs


And you got a Wolverine avatar? Should be Colossus!



mstrj69 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 5:47:48 PM)

Eliminating 10 percent of the pool for any reason is only eliminating 3.3 percent of the total people if the pool starts with 33 percent.  Otherwise you have to go back up to 100 percent as being hwp if you want to eliminate 10 percent and you would still have 70 percent of the 33 percent or roughly 22 percent of the total population as being hwp and in your available pool.



Kumasan2 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 6:00:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen1968
For me it's much more a matter of health.  Being obese will eventually lead to health problems.  I've seen it happen to many family members.

My health is what lead to my obesity.  I have asthma and spondylosis (arthritis of the spine) which keeps me from being as active as I'd like.  But I have excellent cholesterol and my blood sugar absorption is, according to the endocrinologist I saw, textbook.  I do want to lose weight because it will help the chonic back pain I'm in.  But the weight didn't cause the pain directly.

The problem I consistently run into is that many women don't find me interesting becuase they assume that my health is poor.  Apart from what is mentioned above my only other medical issue is color blindness which leads to a severe taste issue regarding clothing choices.



Moloch -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 6:24:11 PM)

"Obese individuals have a 50-100 percent increased risk of death from all causes, compared with normal-weight individuals (body mass index 20–25). Most of the increased risk is due to cardiovascular causes."

If I am going to spend the rest of my life with some one I would like them to stick around...





slaveboyforyou -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 6:27:58 PM)

When most people say height-weight proportionate they don't mean perfect.  I certainly don't expect physical perfection.  However, there is a big difference between being curvy and being morbidly obese.  I like women that have a little meat on them.  In fact I prefer it over women that are waifishly thin.  I will never spend hours and hours in a gym, so that rules out women that are fitness buffs too. 

That being said, I am not attracted to someone that is excessively fat.  I understand that there are health problems and circumstances that cause this.  I don't even give lazy, fat couch potatoes grief over their body shape.  We all have our vices.  I smoke like a chimney, and I know it is a deal breaker for many people.  It's why I typically date other smokers.  Just as I don't expect people to accept my cigarette smoking, someone can't expect me to overlook their girth.  It's not my fault they are fat, and I am certainly not qualified to help them get into shape.  I sympathize with their condition, and I am never rude to heavy people.  You will never see a "no fat chicks" bumper sticker on my car.  But I won't apologize for being discriminatory with my choice in romantic partners.



waterfairy1984 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:11:34 PM)

Everybody has preferences- height, weight, religion, sex, kinks, age, race/nationality/ethnicity, sexual orientation- and we have them to help us find our match. Anytime you add a preference you eliminate a group of people, but eventually all that elimination gets you down to one person...and isn't that the point?



CalifChick -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:20:39 PM)

Oh geez, it's been what, maybe 10 days or so since we had a "fat chicks" thread??

Cali



popeye1250 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:42:18 PM)

"Ohhhhhhhhhhh,... Masturbation, we love Masturbation, Masturbation it's so fun to do!"



SubbieOnWheels -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:46:06 PM)

I have preferences that may seem discriminatory, but for a reason.

I need someone healthy and strong enough to complement my physical weaknesses. If my partner is disabled or otherwise incapacitated (for instance, by excess weight) he might not be able to help me up if I fall. And there might be times when I have difficulty achieving a particular position without help.

Just my two cents' worth.

Subbie Beth



Leatherist -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:47:33 PM)

No hurries, I can wait.



stella41b -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:52:14 PM)

My main criteria is the intelligence-stupidity ratio but unfortunately no studies have been done.

The standard appears to be 'photoimage perfect' and 'professional' and if you can convince other people that you're both you can get away with much more than someone who can't.

I don't have any time for people who judge others on the basis of their appearance. If obesity was as simple as people make out then it wouldn't be such a problem, but I assume that it IS such a problem because it isn't that simple.

I'm a TS female and I constantly get judged on my appearance, in fact a lot of people cannot see beyond the appearance or TS label. Their loss, not mine. Overweight people suffer problems which are very similar in that they get judged on their appearance, therefore I make a special effort to be open and receptive to them. How you look bears no relation to who you are as a person, bar personal hygiene, and who am I to say as to whether someone obese is about to drop dead or not?

Obesity isn't healthy, I know from my own personal experience of weighing in excess of 400lbs, and now 110lbs lighter at a fraction under 6ft it does make a difference to your health. But you know, someone might just be carrying the obesity gene, they might be big-boned, they might be suffering from clinical depression, have issues from their past, some sort of emotional baggage, such issues might have been resolved, it could be issues with their metabolism, or they might even be healthy enough to carry such excess weight. Assuming that someone obese leads an unhealthy lifestyle on the basis of their appearance is shallow, and I don't care how you justify such things.

If you're judging someone on their appearance then you're either a teenager or someone who hasn't fully matured. It never ceases to amaze me how some people have this childlike naive belief that they're going to meet someone in their 30's or 40's or older who isn't physically imperfect, who doesn't have some sort of emotional baggage and who doesn't have a past.

And isn't it so often the case that the first person to cry 'fake' or whine that they can't find anybody 'real' is often the person only interested in people who match a list of criteria which excludes most of the population?

I've got nothing against physically attractive people or people in good shape, congratulations and if you've got it, use it. I've also got nothing against people expressing preferences, but at the end of the day it's your preferences and doesn't reflect, or shouldn't, on the other person. All I'm saying is if you're mug enough to assume an obese person is that way by choice then it says far more about you as a person than it does them.



laurell3 -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:53:54 PM)

I think you have to take the whole picture into consideration.  I know many technically overweight people that are in much better shape and and much healthier than I am because they take better care of themselves, although I would guess most would say I am in fact HWP.



CalifChick -> RE: HWP (12/29/2007 7:54:10 PM)

Leather, you big ol' hotty you... 

I gotta say something that I say to a friend of mine sometimes... can ya put the dots closer together cuz I'm not following you.

Cali



LadyEllen -> RE: HWP (12/30/2007 5:28:43 AM)

The "problem" isnt being fat - its our innate tendency to judge everything and everyone on appearance, within a fraction of a second. This is a very useful survival instinct when living in a primeval environment - we know very quickly what is dangerous and what is not, for instance, because we evaluate our environment very quickly.

When it comes to mating, the same instinct kicks in I'd guess, and we very quickly discern who is and who is not worth mating with according to general criteria and then secondly our own innate criteria. I would suppose that it would be at the "dangerous/ not dangerous" stage of evaluation that we might discount for the purposes of mating any unfamiliar appearance in another person (for example ethnic group) which is outside our knowledge as "dangerous" for instance.

I would suppose that general criteria would run from very basics - is the person the right sex? to more developed criteria - does the person look healthy and strong enough to bear offspring (in the case of a female) or to defend offspring (in the case of a male). Thereafter we might discern further with innate criteria - does the person smell nice (apparently an indicator of biological compatibility). And then discern further with preferential criteria - does the person appeal to us in their behaviours?

But if the person does not pass the "dangerous?" test, and then the "right sex?" and then the "healthy and strong?" test, we would not normally ever find out more about them in terms of mating possibilities - except that in our developed societies we tend to learn more about others than would normally be the case, because we find ourselves in close proximity with repeated encounters that may yet tip the balance in favour of mating on other grounds than general or innate criteria.

So, I'd say that its inevitable that we are going to reject certain people for mating on purely instinctual grounds, but that this is by no means the absolute end of any potentially mating interest, given the artificial (compared to our natural state) environments in which we find ourselves.

E



Suleiman -> RE: HWP (12/30/2007 5:36:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moloch
"Obese individuals have a 50-100 percent increased risk of death from all causes, compared with normal-weight individuals (body mass index 20–25). Most of the increased risk is due to cardiovascular causes."

If I am going to spend the rest of my life with some one I would like them to stick around...


To quote my esteemed mother, "Life Is A Fatal Disease"



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