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chinese food on christmas - 12/10/2007 6:32:01 PM   
lusciouslips19


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Status: offline 		How many of nonchristian faiths on CM? Do you enjoy the lack of pressure, chinese food and a movie? Or do you feel jealous and an outsider?
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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/10/2007 6:46:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		My family is christian, so I still celebrate the holiday and enjoy presents with them.  This year though is my sisters "in laws" christmas year, so we'll get together on the new years weekend.  And yes, I'm thoroughly enjoying staying home and doing nothing all day but hanging out together doing lazy warm indoor things :)

I do get the outsider feeling- there were literally NO Hanukkah items at the Michael's over the weekend and no one's really been saying much about it (I know, it's a minor holiday), and everyone thinks if you don't celebrate christmas as a christian holiday then there's nothing really for you, but you brush it off and use the occasions as a way to share new ideas with people.  Helping them understand that they are really only symbolically celebrating the birth of their savior and in fact stole a complete set of religious practices already in place can help put the perspective that we should all perhaps try a bit harder to celebrate that whole good will towards others and the spirit of giving more than any religious message works for me.

Even if my family weren't christian, I still couldn't help giving presents!  How can I not love the excuse to spoil everyone?  I also have many different friends of many different faiths and have been welcomed to all sorts of "seasonal" celebrations.  I celebrate the spirit and the need for the human spirit to keep warm and alive in the period of most dark in the North- not the religion.

Funny though, getting chinese food is our family's tradition for New Years Eve,

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/10/2007 8:15:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chinese food on Christmas Eve = Tradition.

What's to be jealous?  It's a lovely, quiet night for everyone.

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 1:13:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I grew up with a multicultural background, although my mother is Christian and I do not share her religion. I find the gluttony at 'Christmas' obscene, with so many people celebrating an occasion for the wrong reasons. I don't feel pressured into giving presents on Christmas day b/c it's something I do spontaneously throughout the year and the food I cook will be fairly simple, but delicious. The food on New Year's Day in my household its traditionally the cuisine of other cultures, Indian, Chinese, West Indian, Thai and so on. For me, it's a much more important day and I enjoy making huge batches of mouth-watering morsels to share among friends, family members and neighbours, just turning up on doorsteps to wish those a Happy New Year.

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 2:20:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Christmas is a secular holiday whether we like it or not.  I have considered myself a deist since for a long time, but I still enjoy the ritual surrounding Christmas.  I like seeing my family and friends.  I like decorating the tree, and I like the tradition.. 

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 3:06:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

How many of nonchristian faiths on CM? Do you enjoy the lack of pressure, chinese food and a movie? Or do you feel jealous and an outsider?


My entire family is non Christian except for one BA sister, but there has always been the celebration of Christmas. It just happens without church and other religious aspects. Same as Easter, when I was a youngin it was all about the egg hunt and the sadly hollow chocolate bunny and not about the religious aspect of it.

That said I do feel an outsider and I am jealous, I think I am more jealous of the foggy notion of the happy family gathered around the table. The multi generational family that Rockwell painted and probably doesn't actually exist. Or it might heh, I don't really know. I haven't had Christmas with family in 20 years so my jealousy is tinged by memories perfected by time and distance.

Until last year I did an orphan dinner, a turkey and ham with every extra imaginable for those that had nowhere to go. It was an open house day where friends could bring friends who could bring more friends. I loved it. Again there was no religious aspect but more a bringing together of people which is what Christmas truly means to me.

This year I'm going to Las Vegas.... with my ex-husband  and skipping the orphan dinner. It will be interesting to see if I still have the longing to be with that perfect family passing mashed potatoes with the grandparents telling the same stories yet again.

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 4:06:55 AM   
lusciouslips19


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1uZ_W7atDE

being jewish has always been odd at this time of year. Gifts are exchanged at hannukah. I like the fact that the celebrationa are more low key. Decorations include an occasional streamer and lighting candles and eating potatoe pancakes. yum. Teaching the lessons of tradition but without the obsenity of ostenttious display.

As I have gotten older I appreciate chinese food on christmas and a movie. My pressure is over. Hannukah ends tonight.

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 4:19:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm an athiest, dosent stop me from enjoying what amounts to thanksgiving with presents lol.

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 5:28:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
How many of nonchristian faiths on CM? Do you enjoy the lack of pressure, chinese food and a movie? Or do you feel jealous and an outsider?

I'm not of a nonchristian faith but I too enjoy the lack of pressure, chinese food and a movie.  Christmas doesn't have to be about mad spending and idiocy like so many make it.  Master and I neither one believe in spending money we can't spare on a bunch of gifts just because that's what everyone else is doing.  We set a certain amount and will not go over it.  It's a very low, reasonable amount.  Then, to insure there's no disappointment, we each pick out several small things we want and buy them for each other (not exceeding said limit) and exchange them at the appropriate time.  It's just what works for us.  We both get several small gifts we'll really enjoy, we're not in debt or want from spending like maniacs, and we don't feel like one of the mindless, shop til you drop masses.  No pressure, chinese food and a movie sounds great and we'll throw in some souped-up eggnog and homemade cookies to boot...............luci 

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 6:03:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm an atheist with a number of non christian friends and we love our big gathering on xmas day for chinese and a movie. I've bullied everyone into AVP this year  over one insistent call for Alvin and the Chipmonks. I really love the tradition since it is both a day spent with my nearest and dearest but also the end of season that makes me cringe a little more every year

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 6:23:31 AM   
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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 7:36:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I get invited places"poor jewish girl with nowhere to go". I use to go as to not hurt feelings. But now I dont. I have a sister that had a last minute brunch last year. I told her I wasnt coming. I wanted chicnese food and a movie and no obligations.

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 7:39:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Holidays can be depressing. Christmas has become robotical.  "Time to make the donuts"- sorta like rushing a vacatiom to shop all the souveneiur stands with barely seeing the destination.

Since it is better to give then recieve- I can tell ya my email- as I know you have an ichy finger that wants to paypal me a tidy tidings.  Right?

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RE: chinese food on christmas - 12/11/2007 3:56:08 PM   
lusciouslips19


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Holidays can be depressing. Christmas has become robotical.  "Time to make the donuts"- sorta like rushing a vacatiom to shop all the souveneiur stands with barely seeing the destination.

Since it is better to give then recieve- I can tell ya my email- as I know you have an ichy finger that wants to paypal me a tidy tidings.  Right?


Sure! the hannukah gelt is on the way!

Just give me your account number so that I can forward you the millions

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