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NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/1/2007 11:52:51 PM

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What a mess, a heap o' misery, and a playoff system would go a long way to fixing such a situation.

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Call it BCS Armageddon.
In the perfectly upsetting ending to the Season of the Upset, as many as seven teams head into Sunday at least within argument's range of the national-title game

No. 1 Missouri and No. 2 West Virginia? Sorry, you had your chance. You're out, even though you'll probably still be ranked in the top 10. No. 3 Ohio State? You're the only one of the major conference champions with only one defeat, so you're in. That leaves pretty much everybody else in the top 10 worthy of consideration. Let's hear their positions for and against, leading to Sunday's 5 p.m. BCS announcement:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7513842

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 4:42:25 AM

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Can you believe this? The folks who run the BCS computer certainly can't. The last big Saturday of the college football season was pretty much like the rest of them -- nothing went to form.

No. 1 Missouri and No. 2 West Virginia each lost and blew their chances to play for the national title.

That opened the door for Ohio State, the clear No. 3, to play in the BCS championship game Jan. 7 in New Orleans. There are no fewer than six candidates to face the Buckeyes -- including Georgia, LSU, Kansas, Virginia Tech, Southern California and Oklahoma, the 38-17 winner over Missouri in the Big 12 title game. All those teams except Kansas have two losses.

"I'm getting ready to get in the fetal position and crawl under my desk," joked Jerry Palm, the BCS analyst who runs www.collegebcs.com, when reached Saturday night.

Palm thinks LSU is the favorite to take the spot opposite Ohio State in the championship game, though he conceded nothing is for sure.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-t25-bcsrdp&prov=ap&type=lgns

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 4:56:05 AM

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So would the playoff season have to begin in October to be done by the time the bowl season rolls around? Will adding more games to the season leave the players ANY time to attended classes? College ball has been around a long time without the need for playoffs, the problem now derives from over-scheduling.

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:11:31 AM

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So would the playoff season have to begin in October to be done by the time the bowl season rolls around? Will adding more games to the season leave the players ANY time to attended classes? College ball has been around a long time without the need for playoffs, the problem now derives from over-scheduling.

They have went from 11 regular-season games to 12 or 13; cut back on that, and have some of the bowl games as part of the playoff system, and you wouldn't really extend the season, except maybe for the title game.

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:21:09 AM

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From a thread on the subject last year:

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=701306

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:55:51 AM

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Ah, whatever! Y'all are just mad that my Bucks keep showing why they rule college football!

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:57:38 AM

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Umm, Level, the same reasons I gave last year apply this year as well. There's not going to be a playoff until the major conferences decide they want it, and I don't see why that would happen anytime soon. Keep things the way they are, and each major conference is guaranteed a big cash payout in one of the BCS bowls. Open things up with a playoff system, and some upstart like Boise State just might have an impressive run and shut some of the major-conference teams out of the most lucrative bowl games. How is that in the interest of the major conferences?

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 6:03:17 AM

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Bosie state was a fluke, just like hawaii is this year.

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 6:35:25 AM

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Ah, whatever! Y'all are just mad that my Bucks keep showing why they rule college football!

Did you know that Jim Tressel hates death metal?

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 7:18:58 AM

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Doesnt matter to me. Tressel is a true class act, an excellent representative of Ohio State.

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 7:38:11 AM

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Yeah, kidding aside, I think he's an excellent coach.

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 9:30:16 AM

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I dont think Ive ever heard him talk smack about an oppontent, or any of his players....

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:25:45 PM

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No. 2 West Virginia? Sorry, you had your chance. You're out, even though you'll probably still be ranked in the top 10

...just had to let that out.......luci

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:45:06 PM

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The bowl schedule. Teams in maroon are my picks to win, games in blue are ones that may turn out to be the best matchups.

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia
Utah vs. Navy
San Diego
Dec. 20, 9 p.m.
ESPN HD

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Memphis vs. Florida Atlantic
New Orleans
Dec. 21, 8 p.m.
ESPN2 HD

Papajohns.com Bowl
Southern Miss vs. Cincinnati
Birmingham, Ala.
Dec. 22, 1 p.m.
ESPN2 HD

New Mexico
Nevada vs. New Mexico
Albuquerque, N.M.
Dec. 22, 4:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Pioneer Las Vegas
UCLA vs. BYU
Las Vegas
Dec. 22, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Sheraton Hawaii
Boise State vs. East Carolina
Honolulu
Dec. 23, 8 p.m.
ESPN

Motor City
Purdue vs. Central Michigan
Detroit
Dec. 26, 7:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Pacific Life Holiday
Arizona State vs. Texas
San Diego
Dec. 27, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Champs Sports
Boston College vs. Michigan State
Orlando, Fla.
Dec. 28, 5 p.m.
ESPN HD

Texas
TCU vs. Houston
Houston
Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
NFL Network

Emerald
Maryland vs. Oregon State
San Francisco
Dec. 28, 8:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Meineke Car Care
UConn vs. Wake Forest
Charlotte, N.C.
Dec. 29, 1 p.m.
ESPN HD

AutoZone Liberty
UCF vs. Mississippi State
Memphis, Tenn.
Dec. 29, 4:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Valero Alamo
Penn State vs. Texas A&M
San Antonio
Dec. 29, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

PetroSun Independence
Alabama vs. Colorado
Shreveport, La.
Dec. 30, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
California vs. Air Force
Fort Worth, Texas
Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m.
ESPN

Roady's Humanitarian
Georgia Tech vs. Fresno State
Boise, Idaho
Dec. 31, 2 p.m.
ESPN2

Brut Sun
South Florida vs. Oregon
El Paso, Texas
Dec. 31, 2 p.m.
CBS

Gaylord Hotels Music City
Kentucky vs. Florida State
Nashville, Tenn.
Dec. 31, 4 p.m.
ESPN HD

Insight
Indiana vs. Oklahoma State
Tempe, Ariz.
Dec. 31, 6 p.m.
NFL Network

Chick-fil-A
Clemson vs. Auburn
Atlanta
Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Outback
Wisconsin vs. Tennessee
Tampa, Fla.
Jan. 1, 2008, 11 a.m.
ESPN HD

AT&T Cotton
Missouri vs. Arkansas
Dallas
Jan. 1, 2008, 11:30 a.m.
FOX

Gator
Texas Tech vs. Virginia
Jacksonville, Fla.
Jan. 1, 2008, 1 p.m.
CBS

Capital One
Michigan vs. Florida
Orlando, Fla.
Jan. 1, 2008, 1 p.m.
ABC HD

Rose Bowl presented by Citi
Illinois vs. USC
Pasadena, Calif.
Jan. 1, 2008, 4:30 p.m.
ABC HD

Allstate Sugar
Hawaii vs. Georgia
New Orleans
Jan. 1, 2008, 8:30 p.m.
FOX

Tostitos Fiesta
Oklahoma vs. West Virginia
Glendale, Ariz.
Jan. 2, 2008, 8 p.m.
FOX

FedEx Orange
Virginia Tech vs. Kansas
Miami
Jan. 3, 2008, 8 p.m.
FOX

International
Rutgers vs. Ball State
Toronto
Jan. 5, 2008, Noon
ESPN2 HD

GMAC
Bowling Green vs. Tulsa
Mobile, Ala.
Jan. 6, 2008, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Allstate BCS Championship Game
LSU vs. Ohio State
New Orleans
Jan. 7, 2008, 8 p.m.
FOX

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:47:43 PM

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The NCAA does sports besides basketball?

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:48:53 PM

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No. 2 West Virginia? Sorry, you had your chance. You're out, even though you'll probably still be ranked in the top 10

...just had to let that out.......luci

Awww, sweet lady *hugs*. Hey..... they had a great year..... but damn, Pitt got 'em.....

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:49:56 PM

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The NCAA does sports besides basketball?

Yes, but don't tell anyone, dc. You have a favorite team in all this mish-mash?

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 5:54:48 PM

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Well, Notre Dame is the family alma mater (though not mine personally), so I tend to root for them. Rumor has it they're having a rough season.

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 6:10:49 PM

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Yes, the Irish have struggled this year....... they were not even invited to the Tidy Bowl.

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RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff - 12/2/2007 7:37:30 PM

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Don't yale and Harvard participate in playoffs when they qualify? The other colleges compete in playoffs, and have for years. Buckeyes!! They sure showed us last year.

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