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SubMaleBitch -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (12/2/2007 7:44:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: youngsubgeoff

Ah, whatever! Y'all are just mad that my Bucks keep showing why they rule college football!


rule college football?
Well gee, if Missouri and West Virginia had done what Ohio State did last weekend (NOT PLAY) they would still be #1 and #2.
It sucks that teams are penalized for playing while others are rewarded for not playing.
One of the ESPN columnists put it the best when he said Ohio State didn't play and went from #5 to #3, the didn't play this week and went from #3 to #1, maybe if they stay home and don't play they will win the National Championship.




Level -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (12/3/2007 2:19:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

Don't yale and Harvard participate in playoffs when they qualify? The other colleges compete in playoffs, and have for years. Buckeyes!! They sure showed us last year.


I know that Division II has a playoff system...... I'm not sure if the Ivy league falls into that, though.




youngsubgeoff -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (12/3/2007 6:08:00 AM)

LSU to beat OSU? Yeah, tell that to Miami.... HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!




Level -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (12/21/2007 2:57:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

The bowl schedule. Teams in maroon are my picks to win, games in blue are ones that may turn out to be the best matchups.

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia
Utah vs. Navy
San Diego
Dec. 20, 9 p.m.
ESPN HD
 
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Memphis vs. Florida Atlantic
New Orleans
Dec. 21, 8 p.m.
ESPN2 HD

Papajohns.com Bowl
Southern Miss vs. Cincinnati
Birmingham, Ala.
Dec. 22, 1 p.m.
ESPN2 HD

New Mexico
Nevada vs. New Mexico
Albuquerque, N.M.
Dec. 22, 4:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Pioneer Las Vegas
UCLA vs. BYU
Las Vegas
Dec. 22, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Sheraton Hawaii
Boise State vs. East Carolina
Honolulu
Dec. 23, 8 p.m.
ESPN

Motor City
Purdue vs. Central Michigan
Detroit
Dec. 26, 7:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Pacific Life Holiday
Arizona State vs. Texas
San Diego
Dec. 27, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Champs Sports
Boston College vs. Michigan State
Orlando, Fla.
Dec. 28, 5 p.m.
ESPN HD

Texas
TCU vs. Houston
Houston
Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
NFL Network

Emerald
Maryland vs. Oregon State
San Francisco
Dec. 28, 8:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Meineke Car Care
UConn vs. Wake Forest
Charlotte, N.C.
Dec. 29, 1 p.m.
ESPN HD

AutoZone Liberty
UCF vs. Mississippi State
Memphis, Tenn.
Dec. 29, 4:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Valero Alamo
Penn State vs. Texas A&M
San Antonio
Dec. 29, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

PetroSun Independence
Alabama vs. Colorado
Shreveport, La.
Dec. 30, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
California vs. Air Force
Fort Worth, Texas
Dec. 31, 12:30 p.m.
ESPN

Roady's Humanitarian
Georgia Tech vs. Fresno State
Boise, Idaho
Dec. 31, 2 p.m.
ESPN2

Brut Sun
South Florida vs. Oregon
El Paso, Texas
Dec. 31, 2 p.m.
CBS

Gaylord Hotels Music City
Kentucky vs. Florida State
Nashville, Tenn.
Dec. 31, 4 p.m.
ESPN HD

Insight
Indiana vs. Oklahoma State
Tempe, Ariz.
Dec. 31, 6 p.m.
NFL Network

Chick-fil-A
Clemson vs. Auburn
Atlanta
Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m.
ESPN HD

Outback
Wisconsin vs. Tennessee
Tampa, Fla.
Jan. 1, 2008, 11 a.m.
ESPN HD

AT&T Cotton
Missouri vs. Arkansas
Dallas
Jan. 1, 2008, 11:30 a.m.
FOX

Gator
Texas Tech vs. Virginia
Jacksonville, Fla.
Jan. 1, 2008, 1 p.m.
CBS

Capital One
Michigan vs. Florida
Orlando, Fla.
Jan. 1, 2008, 1 p.m.
ABC HD

Rose Bowl presented by Citi
Illinois vs. USC
Pasadena, Calif.
Jan. 1, 2008, 4:30 p.m.
ABC HD

Allstate Sugar
Hawaii vs. Georgia
New Orleans
Jan. 1, 2008, 8:30 p.m.
FOX

Tostitos Fiesta
Oklahoma vs. West Virginia
Glendale, Ariz.
Jan. 2, 2008, 8 p.m.
FOX

FedEx Orange
Virginia Tech vs. Kansas
Miami
Jan. 3, 2008, 8 p.m.
FOX

International
Rutgers vs. Ball State
Toronto
Jan. 5, 2008, Noon
ESPN2 HD
 
GMAC
Bowling Green vs. Tulsa
Mobile, Ala.
Jan. 6, 2008, 8 p.m.
ESPN HD

Allstate BCS Championship Game
LSU vs. Ohio State
New Orleans
Jan. 7, 2008, 8 p.m.
FOX


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Level -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/8/2008 3:42:55 AM)

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Another big game for an alleged championship, another letdown. And so, with a two-loss team celebrating as if they’ve actually won something, we’re left to ask again when the tradition slaves who run college football will finally do the right thing and give us a playoff.


Be honest. Unless you’re an LSU fan — and hats off to them for grinding Ohio State into the Superdome turf — there’s no way you think this college football season should be over. I don’t know which team you want to have a shot at LSU. It could be USC or Georgia or Missouri. But I know you want another game.



In a way, what happened on Monday night in New Orleans is the best thing that could happen to the absurd system that arbitrarily anoints a national champion in the NCAA’s flagship sport. After this stinker of a game, there can be no more specious arguments about how the system isn’t broken.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22548971




KatyLied -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/8/2008 6:20:02 AM)

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.fbcnotes08jan08,0,3545037.story




DomKen -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/8/2008 6:41:52 AM)

Simply put there isn't enough interconference play anymore to have anything like the BCS computer do rankings. The Big 10 plays itself and a couple of patsies and how is any objective ranking scheme supposed to identify that the Big 10 champ had no business being on the same field with the SEC or Pac 10 champs?

Let the conference champs play off through December with the final game in the Rose Bowl on January 1.




liks2plzlf -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/8/2008 12:20:20 PM)

Hell, we might as well let the politicians vote for who plays. Wouldn't be much worse.




MasDom -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/8/2008 5:26:51 PM)

Whoot....Whoot.....




MasDom -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/8/2008 5:30:50 PM)

 yeah play offs till some one clearly wins.
Why else play?  -hey cool we can say cluster-fuck...-




caitlyn -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/9/2008 6:50:10 AM)

General ...
 
A playoff wouldn't have solved a thing this year. The final eight, in an eight-team bracket would have been:
 
1 Ohio State
8 Kansas
 
4 Oklahoma
5 Georgia
 
2 LSU
7 USC
 
3 Virginia Tech
6 Missouri
 
Notice how West Virginia isn't in? They are clearly one of the best teams in the country. Also, you know Hawaii would have to be in ... but who's spot do they get? Probably Missouri's.
 
So ... this bracket gets us Ohio State playing a creampuff in the first round ... and we know Ohio State knows how to handle creampuffs, since they pay in the Big-10, and a "two creampuff matchup" of Virginia Tech and Hawaii. Meanwhile, OU vs. UGA  and LSU vs. USC, have to play in the first round, while West Virginia and Missouri get to sit at home and watch teams they beat, play for a championship. 
 
A playoff would only move the computer's decision from "who gets in to the game" ... to, "who get in the tournament, and who plays the cupcake in the first round"




Level -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/9/2008 3:19:24 PM)

I think there's an excellent chance Kansas would hammer Ohio St! And a playoff would have come far, far closer to solving things than what we have.




kdsub -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/9/2008 4:18:28 PM)


Why not just knock off a couple of the silly padding games they play at the beginning of the season and have a real playoff ...64 or 32 teams… Hell these are young kids they can take it... I'm really surprised this has not happened...Imagine the money that could be made.

I guess no organization  has the  power or will  to get things started.

Butch




Lordandmaster -> RE: NCAA clusterfuck, or why we need a playoff (1/9/2008 5:30:10 PM)

It's because the powerful organizations have been actively working AGAINST a playoff.  The major conferences don't want a system in which an outside team could win everything.  The BCS guarantees each major conference at least one large payday, and that's how they like it.

We've gone over this.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I guess no organization  has the  power or will  to get things started.




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