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Money as Debt - 11/25/2007 1:33:09 PM   
SugarMyChurro


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I think some may find this interesting:

Main webpage:
http://www.moneyasdebt.net/

References:
http://paulgrignon.netfirms.com/MoneyasDebt/references.htm

Links to video (complete as far as I can tell):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy-fD78zyvI (follow the other links via YouTube)

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RE: Money as Debt - 11/27/2007 1:26:59 AM   
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Man, not a single comment on this one? I am only semi-shocked...

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RE: Money as Debt - 11/27/2007 2:12:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SugarMyChurro

Man, not a single comment on this one? I am only semi-shocked...


Dude.... I was with the girlfriend at the ''sales'' all weekend---and now I'm back on dial-up


It's prolly interesting tho.....But no youtube for a while.



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RE: Money as Debt - 11/27/2007 5:44:22 AM   
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It definitely matters there's no doubt about that.
Whats the solution without inducing a major WORLD WIDE depression,
I dont know.

Funnily enough Islam, in theory at least, bans Usury and Islamic banks lend in such a way that they themselves are party to both the risks ie a loss or the potential gains.

As of now depositors in banks have virtually zero rights if the bank hits the buffers and the banks get the collateral, say  property, if the borrower hits the skids.

Good 'ere ennit lol
Is this capitalism in the raw ?

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RE: Money as Debt - 11/27/2007 6:08:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger
It's prolly interesting tho.....But no youtube for a while.


Here's a transcript from the guys Resources page:
http://paulgrignon.netfirms.com/MoneyasDebt/MoneyasDebt1_Transcript.doc

It scanned okay for me, but does contain macros. Be sure and virus check it for yourself.

Hope that helps for the dial-up folks, it looks to contain the same info as the finished documentary but I didn't obviously check it exhaustively.

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RE: Money as Debt - 11/27/2007 8:19:15 AM   
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This was covered in the movie  i provided the link to yesterday.

Want to know something else scary?

If accurate impressive pedigree don’t ya think?

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RE: Money as Debt - 11/27/2007 12:28:02 PM   
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seeksfemslave:

It's how what we used to call "Banana Republics" go from boom to bust. We are just taking longer in the various western nations because those that benefit don't really want these nations to implode in the predicted manner - not if it can be helped. Then again, that's probably why places like Dubai and various places in southeast Asia are being developed into westerner friendly places for when the time comes to float away on a golden parachute.

In the meanwhile, even illegal immigrants help boost the necessary populations that allow the cycle of inflation to continue unabated. It's a vast Ponzi scheme that only tumbles when there's no one left at the bottom.

Title 12 is an impressive mass of gobbledygook. In a library I recall that an annotated version on dead trees covers a whole wall.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode12/usc_sup_01_12.html

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RE: Money as Debt - 11/27/2007 1:49:43 PM   
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quote:

Here's a transcript from the guys Resources page:
http://paulgrignon.netfirms.com/MoneyasDebt/MoneyasDebt1_Transcript.doc


Churro,

Does this guy cite Marx in his resource page?

Bacause this whole topic was mapped out in Capitol Vol. 1 in the 19th century under a heading titled something like 'The creation of wealth'....'tis not a new topic.


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