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That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 7:30:12 AM   
OrionTheWolf


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Status: offline 		Had a situation occur that reminded me of when I was in sixth grade. Was this kid named Larry that was always running to the teacher to tattle on the reast of us. Seemed he did it any time her could, as a passive aggressive way to attack us.

Have you ever met any adults that remind you of that?

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 7:38:01 AM   
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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 7:39:16 AM   
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I shun them to make it stop.

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 8:17:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		There was this kid named Charles Jenkins we posted him. I don’t mean we sent him through the mail first class. What I mean is one person got hold of his right leg, another got hold of his left and we dragged him across the ground with each leg holder travelling around opposite sides of a lamp post. Now by this time you can all picture what his scrotum ended up squished against. Obviously I don’t condone posting and the names have been changed to protect the real Charles Jenkins.

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 9:43:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Had a situation occur that reminded me of when I was in sixth grade. Was this kid named Larry that was always running to the teacher to tattle on the reast of us. Seemed he did it any time her could, as a passive aggressive way to attack us.

Have you ever met any adults that remind you of that?

Orion

Yes.  Kids like Larry grow up to be adult tattlers who irritate the hell out of us at our workplaces.  Little snitches running to the bosses to brownnose.  I don't think most people ever really outgrow those tendencies they just carry them along with them right into adulthood, still running to authority figures trying to curry favor.  The funny thing is most teachers and, later, bosses really disdain them for it when all is said and done.  Poor pathetic little snitches...............luci

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 10:51:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm of the opinion that most people remain who they were in grade school. They might get a little more incontrol of their emotions, they might become far more articulate, but the core personality remains the same. How many Dommes have you met that were "protectors" on the playground? How many subs followed the leader? It's the same with your "tattletale." I'm sure they were the same way when they were a kid.

Recently, I got some news from my little home town in the middle of Illinois. Seems a local girl there got in trouble with the law, trying to trade favors for getting out of a traffic stop. Not surprising. I remembered when she once offered to date me, if I would convince my sister to drop out of the cheerleader try outs that she was also in. Before that, I knew she was "playing Doctor" with several boys, in order to get them to beat up another boy who had spurned her....

No, people don't really change much. A bully remains a bully... Someone who manipulates others remains a manipulator... a coward who runs to the authority figures in order to build themselves up while tearing down others.... remains one for the rest of their lives.

Sometimes, I think the best thing we could do, to choose our leaders, is to get ahold of their school records.

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 11:02:03 AM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Easy to deal with goons like that, you just have a couple of people feed them false information.
They tell the "teacher" and then look like idiots.

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 11:19:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		awwww…  Haven’t you ever done something, said something, that you suddenly figured out you said or did all wrong and watched as it exploded all out of control…becoming something you surely did not intend it to become?  And, the more you tried to fix it, the worse it got and nothing you could do would stop it or make it ‘right’?
 
I have. 
 
Anymore, I try to remember its okay to just walk away and leave it to die a natural death.  Course, a dead thing like that is fun to poke…and some people enjoy that; it takes awhile for some things to just…go away.
 
I’m guessing ‘C’ is feeling kinda like that…let’s just try not to poke it and let it just go away.  She apologized, yanno.


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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 11:45:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		The alien, from American Dad:
"Oh, you should know by now that I'm a gossip!  I tell others' most intimate secrets to make myself seem momentarily interesting!"

Gossips and tattle tales, eh?

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 11:57:26 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		Oh gawd.

I know so many secrets my friends want me dead. They have killed, stolen and hijacked. They have done many things and so have I.

Even though we have mellowed over time, we would quickly kill a snitch. Honor is honor, and you keep your mouth shut, and that is that.

People who snitch have never had any idea of trust, and never will. And we will defeat a bully the same way, put his carcass in the ditch. Nobody gets over on me, but that is because I am a leader. I don't have to bully anyone, I got people to do that.

But we never fuck with anyone unless they fuck with us. Ever. It is like an unwritten law. Let it be. If it is not harming thee, let it be.

I know an ex-bully. He is very weak in the mind. I could probbly induce him to commit suicide in a scant few minutes. His best friend actually did commit suicide, and he was one of the physically strongest people I have ever met.

It is those met with adverse conditions who become strong. This guy could jerk 1,500 pounds, yet his mind was so weak that he hung himself.

Tattletales have problems too. I give you this, through my reluctance. Dad used to run a chop shop. He and his buddies at least doubled the value of Corvettes back in the sixties. Well Calvin got busted, and that pissed the olman off, the broad had a gun. He said "So what, turn your back on her, if she shoots you in the back that is not self defense".

Understand the mentality here. They made thousands of dollars a week in the sixties, they had a good thing going. It was illegal and immoral to be sure, but it made money. Calvin destroyed that.

When he got busted he talked and our house got raided. They took at least ten grand worth of stuff. Torches, wrenches, everything. But there is one thing about all this that applies. Carlvin narced on everybody, and Calvin got the most jail time.

Let that be a lesson to all who might turn on their people. The powers that be, no matter how much incentive they offer, are not going to be on your side. Ever.

They see the turncoat as the rat that he is, and will never give him any respect, and that is how it is. It is not going to change either.

T

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 12:07:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'd just like to note that not all kids tattle to be annoying. i was a tattler when i was younger, but it was because i was obsessively focused on rules. i felt it was my responsibility to enforce them. i didn't realize how much this made the other kids hate me. Luckily, i know better now that i'm an adult!

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 12:14:40 PM   
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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 1:38:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was somewhat of a tattletell - I only did it when I felt it was absolutely necessary (like a kid getting hurt emotionally or physically). Otherwise, I always kept to Myself. Ahh, look at where I am now!

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 1:43:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Heh.  I would so trauamatize the kids if I had to teach grade school (being one of the many reasons I've decided against that as a profession).

If I were a teacher, sitting at a desk, and I saw little Suzie walking out with little Rachael and little Bobby picking on her, I'd give both of the bullies detention for a couple of hours, during which time they'd be required to brainstorm about why they did what they did, why it was wrong, and then write little Suzie a letter of apology.

And then little Rachael and little Bobby's parents would call the school, have me fired, and then I'd cry.  Then I'd win the lottery on my way back, the big lottery, and I'd retire richly, the end.

Actually, that whole ending renews my interest.. I wonder if it's too late to switch majors..?

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 4:59:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was a mixed message about 'telling', in my school. On one hand there were rules which we were all supposed to uphold. On the other, reporting breaches of those rules, even when it had resulted in an offense being committed against you, could get you labeled a tattle-tale. One teacher even had a stuffed tail which she would pin on kits who tattled.

Where was the distinction between helping maintain order in the school and being a rat? If you were a witness to an offense and said nothing you could get in trouble - if you said something you could get in trouble. WTF?!

I wondered if it was a matter of convenience for the staff - they could go on record as keepers of the rules, then save themselves the trouble of enforcing them by discouraging or even humiliating whistle blowers. We see this double standard in corporations and institutions today - people who report serious misconduct within an organisation or to authorities outside, are black-listed and harassed. We even have to bring in "whistle-blower" legislation to protect people who perform this necessary and valuable service from harm.

It seems to me the line is drawn along bonds of familiarity. If you call the cops to report some stranger committing a crime, you are an upright citizen. If you do the same to a buddy, you're a rat. I see no moral high ground in the latter, just nepotism.


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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 5:07:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Momentum

There was this kid named Charles Jenkins we posted him. I don’t mean we sent him through the mail first class. What I mean is one person got hold of his right leg, another got hold of his left and we dragged him across the ground with each leg holder travelling around opposite sides of a lamp post. Now by this time you can all picture what his scrotum ended up squished against. Obviously I don’t condone posting and the names have been changed to protect the real Charles Jenkins.

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 6:25:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it tends to depend a good bit on what the observor making the judgement call ("upright citizen" vs. "rat") feels about the crime.

Such as, speeding by 5mph on the highway.  I don't even like cops who arrest for this!  If someone called the police to report it?  Yeah, they're a rat.  Not that anyone would, since almost everyone around here seems to drive at least 10mph over the limit.

Murder with intent to conduct it again, though?  Even if it's one of your good friends that does it, not many people would call you a rat for reporting it.  Unless, of course, it's not a crime to those people, such as if you're at a convention of serial murderers or the murdered individual was especially unpopular.

Such as, me.. I'm pretty big into intellectual honsety.  So, if someone reports someone else for cheating on a test, I won't call it ratting- cheating's a pretty big crime to me.  But, a lot of guys around here would call it ratting, since they probably cheat a fair bit themselves.

Largely, when it comes down to it, tattling can be taken as acting against one's interests, with an unusually strong weight for empathy (since the empathy is typically for the one being tattled on's condition as opposed to the actual individual).

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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 8:53:25 PM   
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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/25/2007 9:04:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh yeah, we have a few of those at work.  And they are a pain in the ass most of the time, sticking their noses in where they don't belong and blowing imaginary issues out of proportion.
 
On the other hand, I worked at a gas station where one of the employees stole from the owners all the time.  None of us would say anything even though everyone knew what was going on and he did it openly.  Why?  Because he was a major kiss ass and a favorite of the owner/manager.  They would not have believed us.
 
 


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RE: That tattletale from school - 11/26/2007 2:02:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		My mom had a rule about tattling: If it wasn't illegal, immoral, or a threat to someone's physical well-being, and if it would grow back, she didn't want to hear about it.

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