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Maya2001 -> RE: Edwards rules (11/17/2007 3:00:14 PM)
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl
I They don't know that US doctors are given bonuses to turn patients away while the salaries of universal healthcare doctors are increased for providing top quality healthcare. They don't know that Canadians don't have to wait any longer to see a doctor than Americans do.
LOL that is a real laugh !!!! <sarcasm> Obviously your not in Ontario dealing with our Canadian health care or watching people die because of long waits to see specialists or having a lack of a doctor
Doctors here have their wages capped, that is the reason many quit their practices here either retiring early or left to move to the US to practice medicine leaving us with a severe shortage of doctors..
How many Americans have to wait 3 years or more just to get a family doctor? How long do they have to wait to get and appointment with their family doctor????......over 3 weeks from the day you phone for an appointment????? How long do you have to wait for an emergency surgery???? ... I have been waiting since the beginning of September when I went to ER due to hemorraging and a tumor was found......... my emergency surgery is scheduled for December 3rd ,,,, a 3 month wait, the ER doctor had to phones several surgeons to finally find one after the second call to move my surgery ahead by a month.... luckily other than some major fatigue at times I have been holding up well despite the hemorraging, but the joke is if I get fatigue or start feeling light headed I am told to go to my own doctor but I can't get in to see him for 4 weeks minimum, now even longer because another doctor there quit the practice so an 8 week wait.
I know of 2 cancer patients who have had 4 month waits and ended up with cancer that mestasized , one was my sons age, he died as a result, 25 years ago emergency surgery meant you were in the hospital within a week for me my cancer surgery I was in, in 5 days, my son who had blood show up in his urine was booked in right away by his doctor so had to head there right after his doctors visit. I know of a person at work whose father requires heart surgery, the doctor basically told him they don't want to deprive a younger person of surgery space, so would not schedule his father into surgery saying he had a long enough life why buy him a couple more years? My son has broken his arm on a weekend, and I fell at night down some stairs ...... too bad for the timing not x-ray technicians are on hand, so just splint and give pain killers and send you home until a technician comes on duty. How about being pregnant and either about to deliver or having a miscarriage and getting to the hospital and be told I am sorry but we have no room for you...... you need to try a hospital 60 miles away. How about being booked for surgery not eating the night before and then spend the next day in the hospital waiting only to be told at the end of the day......"sorry but we can't doing your surgery today....... we will have to rebook" --- this just happened to my former domm, 2 weeks ago who has had 2 gall bladder attacks already has been waiting since the end of July for his surgery and is left still waiting. Ask yourself how do you get physicals or annual paps when you do not have a family doctor ???? Emergency rooms are being tied up with people who have no doctors or for colds and flus, often minor things because long waits to get into seeing a family doctor if you are lucky enough to have one. If you don't like your family doctor or question the care your recieving .....tough titty ..... you don't have the freedom to seek out another doctor ...for one because there is such a shortage and also you cannot see another doctor without have to first apply to the medical board for permission to change doctors and they decide whether your reason is valid. The list of problems here go on and on, we are taxed 40% on our pay checks and then also pay a health tax now weekly as well, not including municipal taxes or sales and goods and services tax, and the surcharges on both federal and provincial taxes. On paper I earn $60,000 but after taxes it is around $25,000. my actual spendable income has been going downhill over the last 15 years leaving me poorer despite my raises and next contract we are being threatened with serious wage cuts, believe me I pay heavily for the current health care system or what little we have of it , and ontop of it many of the services that was once covered now has user fees. My dad had to wait 6 months to get into see a cardiologist when he started having chest pains, he went to the hospital during one attack which when he was first diagnosed as having heart problem he was back home 6 hours later( 4 hours was waiting time to see the ER doctor ) with a prescription for nitroglycerin in order to manage his chest pains until he could get into see the specialist for further diagnostic testing to determine how serious his heart is. I would much rather be paying actual costs and get health care in a timely manner rather than paying $15,000 a year for a current service that often is totally useless to me or forces me to become a burden on ERservices simply because I cannot get in to see my own doctor in a timely manner or because I don't have a family doctor and there is no way my diagnostic tests and treatment for the flu 2 years ago costed the $30,000 I paid in taxes. 20 to 25 years ago I had no complaints with being taxed for medical because I was recieving quality care but now I am get taxed and obscenely high amount for very substandard service, the sad part is I can get far better health care services for my 4 dogs, at far less cost than I am getting for myself and lot of the treatments are identical as they are for human, they even use the exact same anesthesias. I know someone in the US who was diagnosed with cancer about a month and a half after I was told I needed emergency surgery, he had his surgery within a week and started chemo treatments and I still wait.........
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