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Bridge Players can be such assholes.... - 11/14/2007 6:33:34 AM   
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/arts/14brid.html?ex=1352696400&en=b94e0b0207fa971a&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

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“While I believe in the right to free speech, to me that doesn’t give anyone the right to criticize one’s leader at a foreign venue in a totally nonpolitical event,” he wrote by e-mail.


Hey, asshole. Then you DON'T believe in a right to free speech.




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RE: Bridge Players can be such assholes.... - 11/14/2007 6:37:48 AM   
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Not so. The problem here is that the people who put up the money for them to go to this event were deliberately left in the dark by their plans to do this. If their political beliefs were more important than taking the money, they should have used their own funds to go to China.

It's like trash talking in basketball, yes it's free speech. And yes it can be banned by the organization you play basketball in. If they forbid this and you want to do it, then start your own league that permits it.

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RE: Bridge Players can be such assholes.... - 11/14/2007 6:45:31 AM   
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If they're EMPLOYEES, that's different.

If there's a contract stipulating these limits, ( As in the NBA, NCAA, etc... ) then that would be acceptable.

There's no mention of any contractual limits in this instance, and that *would be* the slam-dunk, so it's just trying to silence peaceful dissent. (Did you notice the "You must Name Names!" part of the proposed settlement?

Do the members of this organization realize the significant legal liability the organization may incur, and therefore the significant legal COSTS in this?

Which organizational members are pursuing this "Witch Hunt"? Will *they* need to bear the costs of their little vendetta, or will the organization's members?



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RE: Bridge Players can be such assholes.... - 11/14/2007 6:49:35 AM   
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Not just employees. If there is a code of conduct, and they deliberately violated it, they deserve to have the organization that sponsored them sanction them in whatever ways they knew they would be sanctioned in.

My ums do sports, and they sign code of conducts. Hell, in half of the sports the parents have to sign the codes also. Schools require signing conduct codes. I doubt the bridge federation didn't lay this out plainly in their handbook.

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RE: Bridge Players can be such assholes.... - 11/14/2007 6:55:13 AM   
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Not just employees. If there is a code of conduct, and they deliberately violated it, they deserve to have the organization that sponsored them sanction them in whatever ways they knew they would be sanctioned in.

My ums do sports, and they sign code of conducts. Hell, in half of the sports the parents have to sign the codes also. Schools require signing conduct codes. I doubt the bridge federation didn't lay this out plainly in their handbook.


I didn't see reference to a code-of-conduct which prohibited that statement. I suppose one *may* exist, but since the NYT writer didn't mention it, I assume neither party in the dispute invoked it authoritatively.

Next year, there very well may be a prohibition.

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