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RE: Bill Clinton wins an Asymmetrical victory - 11/9/2007 4:25:06 PM

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What do you wish he had done?

Human rights should have been in the middle of the table, every time we talked about trade with them. The political capital was there. He just rolled over, and his wife is still taking the money.

Did things improve after Clinton left office?

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RE: Bill Clinton wins an Asymmetrical victory - 11/9/2007 4:31:24 PM

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The new slogan should be:

Are you better off; now, than when your President was gettin' his dick sucked?

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RE: Bill Clinton wins an Asymmetrical victory - 11/9/2007 6:03:56 PM

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Did things improve after Clinton left office?

Nope. And I was fairly pissed when our current President apologized for their fighter crashing into our P-3. Of course, given the rest of his time in office, I doubt I'll even mention that in my post-term critique...

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RE: Bill Clinton wins an Asymmetrical victory - 11/9/2007 6:21:52 PM

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Poor neocons, they are so shortsighted and so dimwitted they can't even grasp the meaning of their own bullshit.

They all foam at the mouth at the mere mention of Bill but we are "haters" for looking at the blunder's of Bush and asking "WTF"?

So ol'e Bill pulled of an asymmetrical defeat of Communist China right under the noses of the Republicans. China is no longer communists according to them and who is responsible for that? Bill. Even if it cost us some missile technology, I call that a rather cheap victory, especially compared to what Republicans spend on defeat.

Funny having one of our best presidents (who I couldn't stand) come right before our absolute worst. So one more accomplishment of Clinton, in addition to no direct attacks on the US by Al Queda, he defeated the Chinese Communists using asymmetrical warfare.

Blah fucking blah.

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RE: Bill Clinton wins an Asymmetrical victory - 11/9/2007 7:39:32 PM

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Did things improve after Clinton left office?

Nope. And I was fairly pissed when our current President apologized for their fighter crashing into our P-3. Of course, given the rest of his time in office, I doubt I'll even mention that in my post-term critique...

Yeah, other things do seem to have eclipsed Bush's China policy. I would like to see us be better at nudging them toward freedom.

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RE: Bill Clinton wins an Asymmetrical victory - 11/9/2007 10:35:17 PM

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Did things improve after Clinton left office?

Nope. And I was fairly pissed when our current President apologized for their fighter crashing into our P-3. Of course, given the rest of his time in office, I doubt I'll even mention that in my post-term critique...

I really didn't give much thought to Bush till this point ( I didn't care much for Clinton, I thought at the time he gave to much away to China and he was too conservative and anti-gun for me). The one thing you got to like about Republican's is they tend to have more robust foreign policy (not better but more aggressive) and I thought he would take that as a chance to punch China on the nose (as Clinton had done when he bombed their embassy to point out the fact it wasn't nice to give people shooting at us your satalite intell) but he wussed out.

Raygun would have called up the Chinese premeir and said "Step away from the vehicle, the cruise missles are on their way, the crew was supposed to blow up the plane and forgot so dont' tell anyone but we are covering their asses so they dont' get fired"

Chinese would have screamed holy hell but there wasn't jack shit they could have done. I mean what, stop selling us cheap crap? They would have had to suck it up and would be a little more caution next time.

Also, if I was a Republican, when China shot down that satellite a while back, I would have announced we were retooling some of our missle silos with rockets capable of putting satelites into orbit plus creating Tridents capable of doing the same thing. Make it clear, that that is a game for the big boys and China isn't and won't be allowed to play. I mean if you are going to walk around playing the big bad stud, DO it.

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