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RE: Dennis Kucinich to Bring Up Cheney Impeachment Arti... - 11/8/2007 4:08:55 PM

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The House voted today to send a resolution considering the impeachment of Vice President Cheney to the Judiciary Committee, a move that embarrassed Democratic leaders who were forced into the parliamentary tactic to avoid a floor debate on impeachment.

Led by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, the long-shot anti-war candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, scores of Democrats were joined by scores of Republicans in initially supporting a Kucinich resolution that would have prompted a full debate on impeaching Cheney.

Democratic leaders long ago rejected any consideration of impeaching Cheney and President Bush as an irresponsible move supported only by the far left, so they tried today to table Kucinich's impeachment resolution. After initially having more than enough votes to kill the resolution - the "yea" tally to table impeachment topped out at 291 - Republicans decided they had a chance to politically shame Democrats into a full debate on the sensitive issue. Republicans gleefully said they wanted the debate to show the public how many Democrats would actually support impeaching Cheney, which they consider a move supported only by a fringe element of anti-war activists.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/11/cheney_impeachment_resolution.html

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RE: Dennis Kucinich to Bring Up Cheney Impeachment Arti... - 11/8/2007 4:59:31 PM

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While thy might not be Cheney-lovers, I don't think the Mainstream voters want to impeach Cheney. Certainly don't see any sort of outpouring of support for the idea on this thread. I have to keep bringing it back to the front page. Where are all the Kucinich supporters? I don't get it.

A poll from July says that 54% of Americans want him impeached...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Threepart_case_for_Cheneys_impeachment_made_0706.html

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RE: Dennis Kucinich to Bring Up Cheney Impeachment Arti... - 11/8/2007 10:48:28 PM

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Not to change the subject, MistressNew, but I wanted to mention I love the picture avatar. I have a t-shirt from the company I work for that states:

"It is not the size of the woman in the fight, it is the size of the fight in the woman."

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p.s. Of course, I also have a t-shirt from the Amazon Death Squad; the self-styled name of a multiple opponents class (one woman fighting up to 5 mock assailants at the same time) from about 10 years ago.

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RE: Dennis Kucinich to Bring Up Cheney Impeachment Arti... - 11/9/2007 5:26:32 PM

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Well, the Democrats proceed with a pointedly erroneous assumption; namely that they can use America's desperate need for political change to win even more seats in the next big election. My opinion is that such an assumption is a misstep of untold proportions for which we shall all pay a very dear price.

The Democrats swept into office on a twin mandate: to end the war with/occupation of Iraq, and to stop this White House Administration in its tracks. Period. That's all they had to do to make their constituents happy. They have the power to end the war. No one doubts that, but they aren't doing it anyway. Many, doubtless rightly, suspect that the Democrats do not oppose the war more directly because the Democrats are in league with the Republicans in actually profiting from the war also. Impeachment is a stickier situation. They probably can't get the votes necessary to oust the Prez and his gang of thugs, but even just pursuing the process has a political gain in stopping the carte blanche corruption with which this Administration has operated. Impeachment proceedings, even if unsuccessful, would also recapture much needed international political support as others countries would observe us opposing this Administration's imperialist tendencies. Impeachment would be one big resounding "No!" to everything for which this Administration stands. But do the Democrats pursue this obvious political gesture? No, they have declared impeachment off the table of their agenda.

So what do we end up with?

We end up with a Democratic congress that fails utterly to distinguish itself from the Republican congress which preceded it. And I guess that's supposed to be good for winning elections, huh?

I doubt it.

So the question is this: what happens to a political party that fails to deliver on the mandates that swept it into power?

And there you have how the next election will turn out, in a nutshell. Republicans rarely vote for some other party, if they don't like their leadership they just don't vote. Democrats will vote to punish or for third party candidates. Neither case spells victory for these idiot Democrats.

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