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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/4/2007 10:43:07 PM   
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Why is Livingstone still in hiding then?  Nope there was a lot more to Livingstone, than just that one incident, which you severly misstate.  Hint, he was widley known as a coke dealer.  And was a convicted Felon.


"hiding" ,.....lol, yawn.....

Next!.....

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/4/2007 10:49:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		You yawn a lot, Maybe you should see a doctor.  Don't worry.  America will be reminded of who Craig was and his ties to Hillary over the next year......

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/4/2007 10:58:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where did you get all of this?Can you show the links,or are they secrete?

No wonder ya`ll are making crap up.lolYou have drug dealers friends, giving over a $100,000 dollars in money and in "in-kind" contributions to Thompson.

You have to make Hillary look awful,just to make Thompson look normal and average.lol

How pathitic is that?

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/4/2007 11:13:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		What do Thompson, Clinton, and Obama all have in common?

Added together, and multiplied by three; there is a snowflakes chance in hell that any of them will see the inside of the White House in 08.


Which makes the original question just one more bit of meaningless razzle dazzle in this election  cycle.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 12:55:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hillary took the Illegal Chinese Money before Tompson entered the race.  You are the only one comparing the 2.  Do your own research, If you have no idea who Craig Livingstone was and what is going to get re aired, this will be a fun election cycle.  Remeber there really wasn't Internet back then, and Dan Rather was the main voice of American news, along with the New York Times.  And your side has spent the last 6 years saying the FBI is a puppet orginization that does what ever the president wants, and it was Clinton's FBI that investigated himself and Hillary.  You can say she got away with it.  And it is true she did.  But she will have to re explain it all in the Fox News/Internet age.  owner59, you will of course disagree with my assessment...and we shall see next year.


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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 1:24:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		First off, Im not a Thompson supporter...

Second, he's not going to be the nominee so it really doesnt matter.

Hillary on the other hand is a front runner who has a double-digit lead and there is a very clear pattern.......where ever the Clintons go....there is always some Chinese guy or group involved in illegal fundraising. This goes back to 1996. For some reason, the Chinese are very interested in the Clintons. Just like the Saudis are very interested in the Bushs.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 1:24:46 PM   
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Hillary took the Illegal Chinese Money before Tompson entered the race.  You are the only one comparing the 2.  Do your own research, If you have no idea who Craig Livingstone was and what is going to get re aired, this will be a fun election cycle.  Remeber there really wasn't Internet back then, and Dan Rather was the main voice of American news, along with the New York Times.  And your side has spent the last 6 years saying the FBI is a puppet orginization that does what ever the president wants, and it was Clinton's FBI that investigated himself and Hillary.  You can say she got away with it.  And it is true she did.  But she will have to re explain it all in the Fox News/Internet age.  owner59, you will of course disagree with my assessment...and we shall see next year.






Oh geezz,....whine, whine,whine.

Clintons were and still are, the most thouroghly investigated couple in America.Ever person they met or did business w/ was checked out,every check they ever reveived or wrote was investigated.Every possible accusation and charge made against them was investigated.They had litterally millions spent on them,w/ dozens and dosens of FBI investigators and government lawyers hired to only look at them,and for years after year.

No one has faced more scrutiny than the Clintons,in American history,and still(lol),the loomitic fringe is claiming he/she got away w/ something.Oh my....poor things(not the Clintons)

Hillary took the Illegal Chinese Money before Tompson entered the race.  You are the only one comparing the 2.
 
Yeah,so what?The two compare quite well.The phony outrage about an illegal donation to Hillary`s campaign is baseless.She didn`t know the guy,and never met him,and the money was returned.End of story.There`s no there,there.

Thompson, on the other hand,is buddy buddy with the convicted drug dealer(drug king pin,that has a nice ring to it),and has received,and not returned,over a hundred thousand dollars from the drug dealer.

How does the lunatic fringe explain that away?Other then making shit up about Hillary.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 1:38:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		If all of Hillaries people are like owner59, this will be a fun election.  Ok owner, you do not care about the pattern of ILLEGAL CHINESE MONEY funding the Clintons going back to 1992.  I think the voters will.  So Hillary gave the Illegal Chinese Money back to the Chinese, very nice of her.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 3:08:46 PM   
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If all of Hillaries people are like owner59, this will be a fun election.  Ok owner, you do not care about the pattern of ILLEGAL CHINESE MONEY funding the Clintons going back to 1992.  I think the voters will.  So Hillary gave the Illegal Chinese Money back to the Chinese, very nice of her.


If you had anything of substance,you`d be talking about it.Obviously, you don`t.Maybe this is a foretelling of next year`s neo-con talking points.A rehash of all the old stuff,plus new"made up" crap.You`re right,this will be a fun election.Lol,I`m not sure you understand though.who will be punching bag.It won`t be Hillary.

And if anyone`s been influenced by Chinese money/funding,it the Bush`s,going back for decades,starting w/ Bush I.

Good strategy though.Accuse your opponent, of the things you do.So when people point that out,you can respond,"hey they do it too!"lol

Just got back from walking my dog,luckydog,and thought of you.My pups got a dog coat on,that caught a bunch of those hitch-hiker pods.

I think of your lame neo-con rantings,the way I feel about those clingy seed pods.A nuisance and a part of walking in the woods(of politics),but no big deal,lol, at all.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 5:02:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not being a Neo-con I guess it's ok for me to not be upset about this. Here is this guys with a decades old conviction that he "served his time" on .(only probation? How does that work?) Is it your position that it should preclude him from any type of political activism forever? Or is it that republicans are required to be perfect?

I have trouble believing that Thompson knew about this and still gave him a job. Pubbies know that the slightest hint of scandal will be magnified out of all proportion. Dems of course get a shrug and a nod because everyone knows they are dirty.  It seems like a someone on the campaign didn't do their homework. To Thompson’s credit I think he handled like a stand up guy. He simply said that Martin is is friend and will continue to be his friend but he was going to have to talk about his position in the campaign with him. There was no prevaricating, coverup, or shrill denials.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 5:14:48 PM   
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Not being a Neo-con I guess it's ok for me to not be upset about this. Here is this guys with a decades old conviction that he "served his time" on .(only probation? How does that work?) Is it your position that it should preclude him from any type of political activism forever? Or is it that republicans are required to be perfect?

I have trouble believing that Thompson knew about this and still gave him a job. Pubbies know that the slightest hint of scandal will be magnified out of all proportion. Dems of course get a shrug and a nod because everyone knows they are dirty.  It seems like a someone on the campaign didn't do there homework. To Thompson’s credit I think he handled like a stand up guy. He simply said that Martin is is friend and will continue to be his friend but he was going to have to talk about his position in the campaign with him. There was no prevaricating, coverup, or shrill denials.



No not at all.

Just admit the mistake,give back the money,pay for/reimburse the "in kind" jet privileges he got,which were over a 100 K,plus,etc,and move on.



My hope,he doesn`t take my advice,and keeps the drug dealer`s money.



You`re correct about the different standards,that the different parties have.What with, conservatives being conservative and liberals being liberals,and so on.But  I don`t think those things apply much any more.And eventually,they`ll all face the general election,where ~all~ POVs are important,not just your base`s POV.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 6:16:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it is the Democrats that put themselves in that position. Remember last year how they campaigned on the promise that they were going to clean out government corruption? Remember that? What happened? I dont see the Dems doing any cleaning house because they found out pretty quick that members of their own party are doing the exact same thing the GOP is accused of doing. You telling me that Demcorats dont take kickbacks or bribes? What world are you living on?

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/5/2007 7:38:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why should he give the money back? They were legal contributions made by a person that presumably has paid his debt to society. Last I checked convicted felons can contribute money just like everyone else. Barring actual meaningful campaign finance laws of course and that is something no politician wants although it is very easy to accomplish.

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RE: Fred Tompson`s criminal adviser.Why aren`t the neo-... - 11/8/2007 12:00:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Remember Edward Moore "Ted" Kennedy?

Remember when Ted would hold a rally in his bid to be Pres, and EVERY TIME, some guy in a SCUBA suit would show up in the crowd?

Kennedy is currently the second-longest serving member of the Senate.    In my book, that pretty well proves that on the East Coast there is no miminum level of conduct that will disquallify you for Congressional Office.

In fairness, W pretty much proves the same thing for the top slot. 

So, what you are REALLY doing in this thread, is very much like making a name for yourself as the highest rolling better, on the Special Olympics.

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