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AquaticSub -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 1:48:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: southernhart i loved hearing the happy stories. It's so nice to know that there are real relationships out there and peole are happy in them. In my real life i see so many subs going from wanna be Master to wanna be Master and they are so unhappy. Thanks everyone for sharing your happiness with me and letting me share mine. How does being in love make your relationship real? Love is great but sometimes it isn't enough to make a relationship work and sometimes people have great relationships without love. I require it to be happy in my relationships, but that doesn't make the other ones fake.

julietsierra -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 2:13:07 PM)
I definitely love my Master. And he loves me. It's been a nice slow progression with neither of us being moved to tell each other soon in our relationship. I was ready first. So I told him. It didn't matter if he loved me in return or not. I simply loved - and needed to tell him so. No reciprocity anticipated or needed. Later on - months later (heck! over a YEAR later), he finally told me. He said in his mind people say the words and never mean them. He wanted to show me through his actions but that sometimes, he felt I didn't understand what he was trying to tell me. I said I always knew but that the words were special too. Said I never asked him because I never wanted him to feel I was attempting to wheedle statements like that out of him. This way, when he finally got around to telling me, I'd know that he meant it. When I told him how I felt, I meant it. He told me. He meant it. juliet

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 4:07:16 PM)
Agreed with Aqua- I've seen some horribly abusive crap situations where people stayed together to allow their child to get beaten bloddy on a regular basis just because of "love." And lots of healthy 'just play' relationships between great friends that last for years. Love really has nothing to do with making a RELATIONSHIP strong, healthy, and lasting.

TakenPet -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 4:11:12 PM)
LA you are right love can be somewhat toxic/complicating to an M/s relationship.

AquaticSub -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 4:12:23 PM)
I could be wrong, but I don't think that was her point.

frazzle40 -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 4:25:45 PM)
Not sure how you can totally give to someone without 'love' being part of it. What is love? Havent seen a definition yet that everyone agrees with. Vanilla, BDSM!!! I want my partner to be happy, want me, I will do everything i can. I want the same. Is that love???

AquaticSub -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 4:28:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: frazzle40 What is love? Havent seen a definition yet that everyone agrees with. You will get as many different answers to that question as there are people on this board probably. I highly doubt there will ever be a defination of love that everyone agrees with.

proudsub -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 6:02:40 PM)
In love, married 39 years. [:)]

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 6:19:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TakenPet LA you are right love can be somewhat toxic/complicating to an M/s relationship. That wasn't my point at all, as Aquatic said. I said love has NOTHING to do with making a relationship work. This includes bad stuff. If an Ms relationship finds love toxic, that means they have an issue with how they work together, not the love in and of itself.

southernhart -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 6:25:57 PM)
Frendship is a form of love. Just on a different level.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 6:33:54 PM)
I understand that you assign a particular experience of "love" for yourself to be something you have universally with all of the relationships you label as "friendship." That hardly means that ALL friendships are simply another way of using a particular experience of "love."

laurell3 -> RE: i wonder (10/24/2007 6:43:32 PM)
so now I have that song in my head... what is love? baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more.... not really apt for this board, but it's there nonetheless..... all joking aside, I know for me it's possible to have d/s relationship where the emotions don't rise to the feeling of "love" quite sucessfully, I'm just not sure I really want to personally.

LadyPact -> RE: i wonder (10/25/2007 2:46:46 PM)
While I hate to disappoint anyone who was hoping for a different answer, no, I am not romantically in love with My submissive. That doesn't mean he is just another plaything to Me. My submissive comes only behind My husband, um's, and grand um in My life. I am very much attached to him, but O/our situation does not involve romantic love. Another type, yes, but not the same.

adoracat -> RE: i wonder (10/26/2007 4:39:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact While I hate to disappoint anyone who was hoping for a different answer, no, I am not romantically in love with My submissive. That doesn't mean he is just another plaything to Me. My submissive comes only behind My husband, um's, and grand um in My life. I am very much attached to him, but O/our situation does not involve romantic love. Another type, yes, but not the same. that makes sense to me too. i mean...i dont feel romantic love for my mother, or for my UM's, or for good friends, but that doesnt mean i love them any less than someone i feel romantic love for. caring, deep affection, love...all types "count" kitten, multi-dimensional

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