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SuzanneKneeling -> Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/23/2007 2:25:36 PM)

This website is hilarious. Action figures depicting the Old Testament admonishments.

http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/

I definitely recommend "When to Stone Your Children" as a starting point. This is the Bronze Age document that the Republican base looks to for guidance in their lives. Kinda makes sense now how the country got itself in the fix we're in.



subtee -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/23/2007 2:27:43 PM)

i just "stone" mine when they won't go to sleep...get a rock and "rock them to sleep." It works.



KenDckey -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/23/2007 3:07:18 PM)

I like to have tree talks with mine   I introduce them to every tree I can find   face first



SuzanneKneeling -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 11:33:26 AM)

It almost makes me want to drop in on an evangelical church and sit near a family with lots of small children. Then when they inevitably get antsy in the second hour of the sermon and refuse to stop squirming when their parents tell them to, I would lean over and say,

"SHHHH! If you don't quiet down your parents will drag you out into the parking lot and have all of us throw large rocks at you until you die a horrible bloody death."

When the parents look at me horrified, I could pull out my Bible and shrug with an apologetic frown, "God's will".



Sanity -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:18:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SuzanneKneeling

It almost makes me want to drop in on an evangelical church and sit near a family with lots of small children. Then when they inevitably get antsy in the second hour of the sermon and refuse to stop squirming when their parents tell them to, I would lean over and say,

"SHHHH! If you don't quiet down your parents will drag you out into the parking lot and have all of us throw large rocks at you until you die a horrible bloody death."

When the parents look at me horrified, I could pull out my Bible and shrug with an apologetic frown, "God's will".


What's sad about your hateful attacks is that sadly, Muslims still do this today. So you're really not being funny.

And the New Testament condemns what you're describing. Jesus taught his followers that the one without sin should cast the first stone... what you're talking about the Old Testament, people from thousands of years ago - and I challenge you to find any society that was perfect in every way back then.

I don't mind that you're spouting so much ugly hate though, really. But I am curious... do you think you're doing your cause any favors this way?



NorthernGent -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:26:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: SuzanneKneeling

It almost makes me want to drop in on an evangelical church and sit near a family with lots of small children. Then when they inevitably get antsy in the second hour of the sermon and refuse to stop squirming when their parents tell them to, I would lean over and say,

"SHHHH! If you don't quiet down your parents will drag you out into the parking lot and have all of us throw large rocks at you until you die a horrible bloody death."

When the parents look at me horrified, I could pull out my Bible and shrug with an apologetic frown, "God's will".


What's sad about your hateful attacks is that sadly, Muslims still do this today. So you're really not being funny.

And the New Testament condemns what you're describing. Jesus taught his followers that the one without sin should cast the first stone... what you're talking about the Old Testament, people from thousands of years ago - and I challenge you to find any society that was perfect in every way back then.

I don't mind that you're spouting so much ugly hate though, really. But I am curious... do you think you're doing your cause any favors this way?


In the 1500s, European Christians were prescribing 'reading the bible' as a cure for illnesses which the muslims were well aware were natural illnesses (circa 800).

Jesus is great, I like him, 'problem is that some of his followers are neanderthals......they think they can waltz into a country and kill people.

Seeing as you're the pacifist in all of this, the practicioner of love, charity, christianity etc....you'll be condemning your government and army for their actions in a land thousands of miles away?



Celeste43 -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:30:05 PM)

Having just checked my Tanakh, Deut 21, 18 specifically states that the young man brought for punishment must be a habitual drunkard. Something that is unlikely in anyone of tender years.

I don't think there are any records of this happening, drunkards or other but I don't know for sure. It's on par with the earlier bit about you can have your wife stoned as an adulteress. What people always leave out is that this could only be done if there are two witnesses who have no ulterior motives in swearing to the adultery. Since nobody ever said, "let's have an affair on the neighbor's lawn so they can see", there are no known cases of such a punishment. And if the witnesses are friends or relatives of the husband, they are presumed to be lying and then they were stoned to death for bearing false witness. It was set up this way to prevent a man from getting rid of his wife without paying the monies owed her.



Sanity -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:32:47 PM)

Please don't accuse me of being a Christian. Just because I don't hate them like you obviously do doesn't mean that I practice their religion.

And no, I won't be attacking the United States government or military any time soon for having liberated Iraq, Afghanistan, Europe, or any other oppressed or victimized people.



NorthernGent -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:38:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Please don't accuse me of being a Christian. Just because I don't hate them like you do doesn't mean I live among them.


I didn't accuse you of being a Christian. I responded to your "so hateful" comment to Suzanne. If you're so kind...you know...christian (as in the charitable sense), then you'll spare a thought for the Iraqis dying at the hands of the US army...or not?

By the way, I don't hate Christians......that's your take on it as a consequence of your limited intelligence......pretty much as expected, so no problems here, mate.



pinkme2 -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:41:15 PM)

My how tolerant the OP is.



Sanity -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:42:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I didn't accuse you of being a Christian.


Yes you did.

quote:


I responded to your "so hateful" comment to Suzanne. If you're so kind...you know...christian (as in the charitable sense), then you'll spare a thought for the Iraqis dying at the hands of the US army...or not?


I never said I was so kind. I am corrupted, soon I'll be evil, and I also have questionable motives. But that doesn't make Suzanne's attacks any less ugly and hateful.

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By the way, I don't hate Christians......that's your take on it as a consequence of your limited intelligence......pretty much as expected, so no problems here, mate.


My limited intelligence you say? Since your positions are so weak that you feel you must resort to personal attacks for courage, you might want to reconsider them.



Celeste43 -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:46:29 PM)

Personally I object to people using Christian to mean charitable. You don't think there are any kind people who are Jews, Wiccans, Pagans, Moslim, Hindu or anything else?

It says that anyone not of that religion cannot possess that virtue and slights every non Christian. Which is a step up from slurring a Moslim by calling them a towel head, or calling a Jew a kike, or calling a Pagan a devil worshipper. But not much of a step up.



NorthernGent -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:46:29 PM)

Yeah....definitely limited intelligence.

You accuse someone of being hateful....does it get anymore hateful than sending an army to iraq and bulldozing cities and people? Where do you stand on this, Sanity? Do you support the US invasion of Iraq?



pinkme2 -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:48:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Yeah....definitely limited intelligence.

You accuse someone of being hateful....does it get anymore hateful than sending an army to iraq and bulldozing cities and people? Where do you stand on this, Sanity? Do you support the US invasion of Iraq?


Recent statistics state that Iraqis are taking charge and helping to secure their own nation- with the Americans.  So I think perhaps your view is a bit biased.  And really, this thread is about Christianity, not the Iraq war. 

And the OP was being extremely hateful.  That much was clear. 



NorthernGent -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:50:27 PM)

Stats provided by whom?



Zensee -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:50:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

quote:

ORIGINAL: SuzanneKneeling

It almost makes me want to drop in on an evangelical church and sit near a family with lots of small children. Then when they inevitably get antsy in the second hour of the sermon and refuse to stop squirming when their parents tell them to, I would lean over and say,

"SHHHH! If you don't quiet down your parents will drag you out into the parking lot and have all of us throw large rocks at you until you die a horrible bloody death."

When the parents look at me horrified, I could pull out my Bible and shrug with an apologetic frown, "God's will".


What's sad about your hateful attacks is that sadly, Muslims still do this today. So you're really not being funny.

And the New Testament condemns what you're describing. Jesus taught his followers that the one without sin should cast the first stone... what you're talking about the Old Testament, people from thousands of years ago - and I challenge you to find any society that was perfect in every way back then.

I don't mind that you're spouting so much ugly hate though, really. But I am curious... do you think you're doing your cause any favors this way?


Is this the same Sanity who is busy justifying contemporary torture in the thread on rendition?


Z.



pinkme2 -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:51:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Stats provided by whom?


Read today's paper.



Sanity -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:52:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Yeah....definitely limited intelligence.

You accuse someone of being hateful....does it get anymore hateful than sending an army to iraq and bulldozing cities and people? Where do you stand on this, Sanity? Do you support the US invasion of Iraq?


Who has bulldozed cities and people in Iraq - now you're imagining things. The U.S. Military freed Iraq, and we are building up it's cities and people after years of horrid totalitarian rule by a truly evil dictator.

And since you haven't figured out my take on Iraq by now, you're obviously not in a very good position to ridicule my intelligence, are you, "mate".



NorthernGent -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:54:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pinkme2

quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Stats provided by whom?


Read today's paper.


lol......will do....is there anything in there about a fox playing the lottery, winning 10 million pounds and setting up business as a dentist?



Sanity -> RE: Helpful Guide: When to stone your children to death (10/24/2007 12:56:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Zensee
Is this the same Sanity who is busy justifying contemporary torture in the thread on rendition?


Z.



Let's pretend that I did say that I was in favor of torture in that thread, even though I didn't.

Would that make a hateful attack by someone else against a group of people any less hateful? And why do you run to that for justification...



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