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Object space??? - 10/22/2007 12:41:56 PM

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My slave exhibits a behavior that I have not previously seen or heard described. I thought that I would put it out there and see if anyone could enlighten me. When I am using her she has the capability of just going away, and I don't mean just subspace. Her subspace function during a scene is pretty normal. This usually happens during a "object" type service such as a "ottoman" or a heavily restrained sexual service in which she is to be completely passive or still ( like trance bondage...) . I can now say somthing like, "for the next little bit I want you to be nothing but a peice of pink flesh wrapped around my cock." this will trigger her to ask "May I go away then, Sir?" If I say yes then all of her upper reasoning goes away, and her pussy gets extrememly wet (as in running down her legs) and she is like an animal- responsive, grunting and cumming and participating in some ways, but incapable of speech. If I cum and decide to take a break. I can sit and read a book and she will just lay there still lubricating and sensitive until I decide to use her again. She picks up where we left off. No additional forplay required she is immediately ready for entry. I have to bring her back by calling her name repeatedly, and then intensive after care is necessary. Her pupil function will not be normal (tiny pinpoints). She passes through several stages of regression when she is coming back. For instance, when she is about halfway back she writes really careful cursive like a 4th or 5th grader. She always needs serious approval after one of these sessions and the night after she will hold me like a child while we are trying to sleep. I'm not concerned because she loves it so much and it makes her feel really safe I think. Does anyone have any experience with this or care to speculate?

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 12:55:51 PM

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No one? Really? Not a thing to add? No similar experiences? BUMP.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 12:56:31 PM

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Its a much deeper form of sub-space. Its 'beyond sub-space.' [the only way i can decsribe it and how i did in a blog entry]

I have experienced something similar to it a few years ago; I went to a place where I was floating and similar to as you described, just 'there.' Its a very deep and fantastic place to be in, it can also be scarrt to come out of just like sub-space. The person I had that experience with was very much into spirituality and was a shamin (sp?) and we had done through some meditative excercises before, so that was an extention of it.

After I came out of it, I needed to be held and sought approval as well, I didn't go through the 4th or 5th grader stage, but I was meticulas at a few things.

She could just be in a very deep meditative state where she basically 'leaves; her body and puts full trust in you. Its a BIG deal. Congrats.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 12:58:35 PM

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Object space is the new subspace

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:02:31 PM

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I've experienced that when I've seen a really nice new pair of heels.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:03:12 PM

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Haven't experienced it but I'd love to go there.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:04:42 PM

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I've experienced that when I've seen a really nice new pair of heels.

Don't confuse shoe space with object space dammit!

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:05:40 PM

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Intersting. Blahniks or Choo's?

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:14:29 PM

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Is she still rational in this condition? Can you command her to perform a task?

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:15:23 PM

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The spitiuality connection is an interesting point. I have a strong background in spirituality. I grew up Pentecostal and was actually a pastor for a while. I have come to reject many of the basic beliefs, but I have never had an adequate explanation for some of the experiences that I went through. I have held on to my prayer meditation practices because I understand how they help me access my subconscious mind and mystical power, even though I no longer literally believe. I have the ability to manipulate energy much like a shaman or a Reiki healer would from my training as a faith healer. It is an interesting coincidence... I once scened with a Wiccan High Priestess and we did extensive energy play, that was intense. Nothing like this happened, but she ended up having to sit down with her ass and legs flat on the floor (Grounding) in order to keep from being overwhelmed this could be something similar, or what happens when the sub does not have the training to know what to do with the energy. Thanks for the great response.

Sean

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:15:38 PM

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quote:

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Intersting. Blahniks or Choo's?

Oh they're both just wonderful.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:17:50 PM

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quote:

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Is she still rational in this condition? Can you command her to perform a task?

Not at all. I have to patiently pull her out of it just to get basic response or even eye focus.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:19:44 PM

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Intriguing, buying you shoos would be much easier than the commitment of a M/s relationship, and if it had all the benefits, why not?

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:25:48 PM

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I cannot say I have ever experienced the level of what you described but certainly the things you describe and to a degree all the reactions sound familiar. Offering up great environments to let the brain check out and just be there. I would probably describe it as that wonderful freeing feeling of for while you are being used that way is all that is needed from you so there is a mental checkout aspect to it, very much so.

The brain can cloud things up and objectification can for many cause the brain to slow down and let go of the things we cloud it up with. For me personally when I am physically objectified I am able to slow down my brain which is a good thing for me.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:25:54 PM

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Sounds like a very successful form of self induced trance, or self hypnosis to me. Maybe she could write a book on "how-to?"

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:28:34 PM

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Does she have a history of sexual abuse? It sounds very much like a dissociative state.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:33:22 PM

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This sounds reasonable. In fact, I think that it has led me to a memory/insight. I once did a kind of sensory deprivation by meditation type of guided meditation with her, in which I asked her to not feel anything but the feelings that she could feel with her Pussy and Ass, this was in association with bondage. I did some anchoring then and I wonder if this could be an artifact of that scene. I had hoped to set some anchor points for her arousal levels, but it may have linked into the altered state as well.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 1:39:20 PM

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quote:

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Does she have a history of sexual abuse? It sounds very much like a dissociative state.

No she does not. It is a very safe place for her, and I have had quite a bit of experience with dissassociative states, In fact, I once had a Sub dissassociate during a scene and I had to bring her out. I was a counsellor at a mental health fascility for a year or so and had seen it done a few times. She was fine and she had a really intense cathartic release during the aftercare as she was trying to explain to me what happened. (basically the release of repressed memories of sexual abuse.) I recommended her to a proffessional counsellor and let it go. this is definately not that, but is similar enough that I did try to explore that possibility. This is a really warm safe place and is not happening during intense pain play but rather during objectification.

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 2:25:47 PM

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-fast reply-
I have been in a very similar place, and I am very impressed that it's a positive place for her - for me, no matter the quality of after care, that 'free flowing' state was terrifying, i hate losing control to such a point.

kimberly

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RE: Object space??? - 10/22/2007 2:25:58 PM

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You might find it interesting to read about flesh hook suspensions.........I've done this myself and some people are capable (at least I believe they are and know people who have) of their spirit leaving their body - thus leaving their body as it was, alive and fine, but not really being there. They say they go into sort of a jello-type state and can look back at their bodies and go back at will - or, say, if they heard their name repeatedly called. This is a very intense thing to do. Perhaps this is what's happening? I'd recommend looking up experiences of Fakir Musafar (the "Father of the Modern Primitive Movement").
At least your slave has a wonderful and caring Master ;)

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