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File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 2:22:18 PM   
SirEbonyPhoenix


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Status: offline 		I was listening to the morning news today and one story caught my attention which I would like to file under America's Dumbest Criminals. Case in point: A convicted criminal who was sentenced to life in prison in 1972 for murdering her first husband in Indiana and later escaped for 35 years, was arrested in Pulaski, Tennessee after being recognized by someone in that community. This same escaped convicted, who had remarried, had worked as a housekeeper and provided child care, maintains her innocence as she awaits extradition and serve not only the remainder of her sentence, but also additional jail time for escaping in the first place. Now, I ask you, is this a page from tv shows like The Fugitive and The A-Team? I mean, this woman should have realized that sooner or later, whether she is guilty or claims to be innocent, she would get caught. Tsk, tsk, tsk.  

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 5:11:15 PM   
thompsonx


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Status: offline 		SirEbonyPhoenix:
It would seem that being on the "lamb" for 35 years that close to her point of conviction and escape would bode well for those who would seek to escape from prison and return to life on the outside world with little care to being recaptured.
Had she but taken the precaution of moving to a town perhaps farther away where her old friends and acquaintances would not know her she might still be a free person paying taxes and living her life in peace and freedom.
As for being given an enhanced term for her escape it seems a moot point since she was doing life.
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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 7:26:53 PM   
SirEbonyPhoenix


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Status: offline 		To a point, you are right, but as long as the laws are on the books regardless of which state an escaped fugitive lives, in the end, they will be brought to justice. Btw, I would like to point out that this woman was convicted and sentenced in 1970 as opposed to what I stated in my original post.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 7:44:52 PM   
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serve not only the remainder of her sentence, but also additional jail time for escaping in the first place.

It is not ethical to convict someone for escaping.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 8:33:23 PM   
EPGAH


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Status: offline 		You're absolutely right, it's NOT ethical to convict someone for escaping--any more than it is ethical to attempt to escape the consequences of one's misdeeds...
At risk of being EXTREMELY trite: If you can't do the time, don't do the crime!

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 8:35:58 PM   
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As for being given an enhanced term for her escape it seems a moot point since she was doing life.
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        As I understand these things, she would be subject to the rules in place at the time of her sentencing, when a life sentence could be served in something like 7-15 years.

       Of course, she might have let herself be caught because she needs a secure retirement with health care and cable tv....

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 9:37:41 PM   
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As for being given an enhanced term for her escape it seems a moot point since she was doing life.
thompson



       As I understand these things, she would be subject to the rules in place at the time of her sentencing, when a life sentence could be served in something like 7-15 years.

      Of course, she might have let herself be caught because she needs a secure retirement with health care and cable tv....

Rich:
It is pretty clear from your last sentence that you have never been in the joint.  Yes I have met some who have become "habitualized" but they have been few and damn far in between.
Are you cognizant of the laws of Indiana at the time of her sentencing...was she given live without parole.  You seem to trivialize the term "life imprisonment"
The OP did point out that she had been self supporting for some 35 years.  Which might indicate that she had not looked upon the prison system as a retirement program.
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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 9:40:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gee I thought this was going to be about Bush and the Iraqi occupation

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 9:59:55 PM   
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Gee I thought this was going to be about Bush and the Iraqi occupation

Michael:
You share some pics of you and blondie and I will high-jack this thread to bush&co and Iraq.  Win win ...no?
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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 10:43:24 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		She is a rather glorious creature is she not?  A woman far more depraved than I and with a sex drive that could wear out a college football team, something I have threatened her with once or twice.  I am indeed a very lucky man.

As for pictures, I am not really one for them, she is, and I will have her forward a couple to you.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 10:45:15 PM   
EPGAH


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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/17/2007 10:52:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well...Barettas not doing the time either!   Though he had to file for bankruptcy.

and....."That's the name of that tune."

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 1:19:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		This woman did make a new life, raised children.  She did not see her 5 children from previous marriage to the husband she was convicted of killing. She lead an average clean citizen life for the past 35 years after her escape and now returns to the justice system to rid of this burden. She maintains the claim of innocence on the initial charges and conviction.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 1:31:38 AM   
seeksfemslave


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Status: offline 		Since the US legal system seems to allow sentences of say life plus 99 years  I cannot see any problem at all.
I do wonder where the prisoners serve their time after they have "expired" and if they get many visitors.

Re the shooting: it was almost certainly the husbands fault any way so I think leniency should be the order of the day.


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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 2:48:57 AM   
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Gee I thought this was going to be about Bush and the Iraqi occupation


Come back around page 12 and see.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 2:51:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually given our computer age and all the catch a criminal and win money tv show and ads across the country, I'd say this woman was pretty damn smart to avoid being caught for 35 years.  Stupid is marrying while in your 6 month period after a divorce, running out and commiting the same crime while on escape status or the one I've seen alot, running straight to your girlfriend's house when you escape, the same address she had when you were convicted of a crime there.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 3:25:07 AM   
came4U


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running straight to your girlfriend's house when you escape, the same address she had when you were convicted of a crime there.


That is why I move or change my locks frequently LOL.

<stopped cooking with cheeeeseeeee!!

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 4:31:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		given she's not killed anyone in 35 years and been a pretty good citizen, I dont see any real point in gaol time now, in that its hardly going to fulfill any purpose whatever. She's rehabilitated herself - at no cost to taxpayers and far better than gaol ever could have. And gaol is meant to be about rehabilitation is the line we're fed, since its obviously no deterrent or punishment for those who go in and out of the revolving door all their lives - which also indicates how well it fulfills its supposed primary purpose of course.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 4:32:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nah protection for society is also a goal and I'm guessing letting people off for being good after escaping might cause some real problems.

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RE: File this one under America's Dumbest Criminals - 10/18/2007 7:31:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would guess that it would motivate escapees to be real good - without the need for and cost of a parole officer.

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