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Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 1:57:35 AM

ksdarban

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Hi I am a 23 year old man an am currently under consideration of a mid thirtys master. I seek 24/7 ownership and the thought of making it legal to ensure no way out appealed to me. I have discussed this and I know you can change your last name but he said that we could go as far as adoption and he would be,by law, my new daddy and backed by law in my ownership. While the idea turns me on I am wondering just how true this is and if there is a dark side to this what ever it may be?

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 2:08:55 AM

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You're 23 years old and this man is going to adopt you, so he will legally be your father? I'm not entirely sure, but I think unless you are unable to care for yourself and need an appointed custodian, you can't be adopted as if you are a child.

Slavery is illegal, so I'm guessing that no court or agency in the world is going to agree to someone being "owned" either.

On the upside, if he carks it you might be entitled to all his worldly goods!!

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 2:09:48 AM

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rules on adult adoptions vary state to state. adoptions can be reversed the same as marrage can. i suggest not looking to leagle papers for something perminate...imho- phoenix

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 2:11:34 AM

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Hiya there, I guess I have a few questions....

1. What are your adoption laws in the State that you are in?

2. What about your natural father, would he like for you to be adopted by someone else?

3. Under your states adoption laws is age concedered, meaning are you to old now for it.

4. Would you call him daddy, 'cause being adopted he'd be your daddy, then the whole kink thing takes on a new side.....kinda makes me squirm.

Look I say do what makes you happy, if it is legal for him to adopt you, I'd say think really really really hard and long about this, what would your family think, how would you feel a few years down the road. Can you not just go to another state and get married if you really want some sort of legal link to him?

Um, good luck.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 2:15:28 AM

MissHarlet

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I didnt think that adults could be legally adopted ... but Im not an attorney so ... .. but an alternative might be the pseudo adoption like little girls used to do with their cabbage patch dolls .. and you would print out certificate etc ...

Not legal ..but could be binding to the two of you ....much like a contract is to others...

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 2:24:46 AM

subnstudent

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What worries me is that you don't speak of any relationship before this decision. Any sort of legal 'adoption' with no way out is going to be surface only, because any kind of actual Slavery is unconstitutional (at least as far as I know). Now, what I mean by that is there will not be any way out and being able to maintain a semblance of a lifestyle and what conditions you're used to living in; he can 'own' you by having all of your personal information, bank accounts, ss#/card, birth certificates, ID's... Yes, all of these things can be replaced but it's hard to do. If you get yourself into a bad spot and you ever do want to leave, well, you would have to probably be homeless for a while, unless it was consentual and the Dom/Master in question was responsible to help you find a new place or niche.

As far as legalities go, you might be able to get some legal support, but if he owns all of your documents, ID, etc, there's no painless way out for you. He'll own you financially but if you ever make the desicion to finally leave, no one is going to bring you back against your will.

I've been in a similar situation, despite it being a parent/18-year-old offspring sorta thing. Having to run away because you 'just can't take it anymore' and living on the streets is not fun, especially once you're tired of being bored all the time and want to start working again, etc.

Anyways, good luck with your decision, and whichever route you take, you discover what you desire.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 4:05:31 AM

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Does "under consideration" mean that you are not yet in a comitted relationship with this person? I would doubt doing something this extreme, even if it were possible, would be appropriate if so. However I would highly doubt that the laws in your state allow for adults that are not incapactiated and adoptions are expensive as the laws are very complicated. Try finding a kinkfriendly attorney in your area and ask them.
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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 4:55:36 AM

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Is his name by chance 'Woody Allen'?...j/k of course

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 4:55:59 AM

Dddyanlittlegirl

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Seems like you are rushing into some thing that you shouldnt be rushingi nto quite jsut yet. You should establish a relationship first before you do any thing of that sort.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 5:45:49 AM

brattysarahjane

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If you were adopted, if legal, wouldn't it then be illegal to have a sexual relationship with Him? i'm really not sure here.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 5:54:33 AM

FemWillUseYou

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Very twisted unreal thinking ..... you can disown a child as easily as toss a slave that becomes no longer what you want

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 6:36:34 AM

Maya2001

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Humans cannot legally be owned , you can own an animal which then becomes "legal property" but even the law entitles an animal legal outs for example where abuse /neglect exists they can be taken away from the owner.

Maybe a better option would be to have your new master register you in the slave register and have you tattooed with the barcode that assigned to indicate ownership http://www.slaveregister.com/

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 6:39:29 AM

MsSophie

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Hmmm... you joined the site yesterday, and write in your profile that you are seeking a 24/7 relationship, yet you are already considering adoption. You've got to forgive me, but I'm not sure you have entirely thought this through. My advice would be that you try to be a bit more patient, and wait until you find a person who is right for you befor considering anything like this.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 6:47:55 AM

thetammyjo

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I strongly suggest that if you are going to do anything legal to back up your DS (or any other relationship for that matter) that you each do your own research and you each get your own lawyer. That way both of you can fully consent to what you do because you'll each have information.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 9:25:34 AM

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How desperate do people want to go to "feel owned" Acting it is much better

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 1:08:03 PM

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Oddly enough, I know that, at least a few years ago, adult adoption was legal and recognized in Pennsylvania- where the OP is from according to his profile. It was a different situation (my grandmother adopted her son- who she'd raised from when he was two weeks old but had never been able to afford to legally adopt- for his fiftieth birthday), but hey, if that's what you want to do, it's legal.

It's not binding, and I'd say it's a horrible idea, but hey, your kink doesn't have to be mine.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 2:03:09 PM

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I think that, if what you are trying to do is to transfer an estate, your SO needs to put together a will, perhaps with a trust for you.

If what you are trying to do is create a power dynamic, I don't think that, at your respective ages, there is any method in the laws that can create that. You can sign a contract with him but the contract must be executed under the laws of your home state (PA) which outlaws slavery (as do all the other US States). Stating your relationship on TSR (please note, this server takes a long time to load) is one way to affirm your relationship.

But I think your power dynamic needs to be generated by the two of you, not through some legal or other artifice.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 2:10:20 PM

camille65

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Of course an adult can adopt another adult from what I know. Just do the research, look online or ask an attorney specializing in adoption. It may be as simple as filing some papers or quite complicated but it can be and has been done. I know two grown women that adopted each other legally as sisters.
Someone said that this is 'desperation', I don't get that at all. I would love to be adopted by my dom. Wow actually I really really like that idea

http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-articles/article14095.html
Adoption is the same legal process whether the individual is a child or an adult. The court issues a new birth certificate for the adopted individual and any existing legal relationships with biological or custodial parents are severed. The adopted adult can change his or her last name, also called a surname change, and all adoption records will be sealed.
The most common reason to adopt an adult is for inheritance purposes. In this case, adult adoption allows someone to leave property or financial assets to the adopted individual more easily.

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 6:15:03 PM

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one of the biggest things that sucks about legal gaurdianship....at least here in texas...if the courts decide you, as a legal gaurdian aren't doing a good enough job for any reason what so ever, they can hand over your gaurdianship to the state or a state agency...i see the courts threaten my grandmother with this who has legal gaurdianship over my older brother who has downs syndrome all too often...

edited to add: this is in the case of someone declared mentally incompetent...maybe different in different situations

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RE: Slave adoption - 10/15/2007 6:27:05 PM

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love the new pic chelle

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