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How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/10/2007 9:57:44 PM   
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So far,256 and counting.

http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_list.html

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/10/2007 10:36:29 PM   
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Owner, the guy is from "Old Money", he went to "Yale", he's never worked a day in his life.
He didn't even show up for National Guard duty.
He did manage to run a baseball team into the ground financially if memory serves.
Now, he's just doing the same thing to a country, OURS!

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/10/2007 10:59:24 PM   
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I would give you full faith and credit without a link, given your unhealthy obsession with Bush, which seems like a borderline case of  passionate infatuation. Seriously, Every time I open this forum and see the word "Bush" I don't even have to look to know who is on one of his usual rants. Virtually EVERY topic written is some rant about Bush. It's not even some critical discussion about a belief of his miscalculations or an issue presented. It is just plain old "Fuck Bush!!! and anybody who says otherwise is a NEOCON!"

It's old.

It's boring

This obsession speaks volumes about personal priorities and free time.

Nobody cares.

Newsflash... he isn't a very popular president.Yeah, we got that. You don't like Bush... yeah, we got that, like 256 posts ago. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if you have more posts on the site complaining about his scandals than the number of scandals he was involved in! So here you go... FUCK BUSH, BUSH SUCKS, Anybody who says different is a NEOCON and an idiot. I am a NEOCON because it took me more than one paragraph to say "fuck Bush" blah blah blah blah Wahhhhh Waaaahhhh Waaaaaahhhhhhh!


If there was a more constructive way to say this from the point of view of the issue I would, instead of stepping on the "personal line" (so mods or disapproving readers, I apologize if I colored outside of the lines). But the fact is that the last time that I mentioned this constructively in another Bush-Bashing hate rant of a thread, (without any question about "coloring outside of the lines) our esteemed author resumed his "NEOCON" tirade against me and anybody who didn't scream FUCK BUSH and his topic got locked.  

If a member wishes to portray himself in a certain way by revealing his unhealthy obsession with a public figure by making multiple threads in a week over the same old shit, then that is the author's business. But when there is no issue up for discussion, or when there is an issue but the author responds with nothing more than "typical NEOCON response" and other mindless insults (which has caused aformentioned thread locking in the past), it serves no purpose here other than wasting bandwidth and trolling in the community. That's my .02, at least. Feel free to lob the same old insults if it makes you feel better.But it's really time to either put your resentment and closet infatuation behind you (maybe with a cute little "Fuck Bush" style sig line, or embrace the dark obsession in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner by actually presenting issues for discussion, and when you hear something you don't like, make an argument against the post instead of the same troll/rant that unravels ito an insult fest when somebody writes something that doesn't slavishly agree with your sentiments.

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/10/2007 11:07:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pulpsmack

I would give you full faith and credit without a link, given your unhealthy obsession with Bush, which seems like a borderline case of  passionate infatuation. Seriously, Every time I open this forum and see the word "Bush" I don't even have to look to know who is on one of his usual rants. Virtually EVERY topic written is some rant about Bush. It's not even some critical discussion about a belief of his miscalculations or an issue presented. It is just plain old "Fuck Bush!!! and anybody who says otherwise is a NEOCON!"

It's old.

It's boring

This obsession speaks volumes about personal priorities and free time.

Nobody cares.

Newsflash... he isn't a very popular president.Yeah, we got that. You don't like Bush... yeah, we got that, like 256 posts ago. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if you have more posts on the site complaining about his scandals than the number of scandals he was involved in! So here you go... FUCK BUSH, BUSH SUCKS, Anybody who says different is a NEOCON and an idiot. I am a NEOCON because it took me more than one paragraph to say "fuck Bush" blah blah blah blah Wahhhhh Waaaahhhh Waaaaaahhhhhhh!


If there was a more constructive way to say this from the point of view of the issue I would, instead of stepping on the "personal line" (so mods or disapproving readers, I apologize if I colored outside of the lines). But the fact is that the last time that I mentioned this constructively in another Bush-Bashing hate rant of a thread, (without any question about "coloring outside of the lines) our esteemed author resumed his "NEOCON" tirade against me and anybody who didn't scream FUCK BUSH and his topic got locked.  

If a member wishes to portray himself in a certain way by revealing his unhealthy obsession with a public figure by making multiple threads in a week over the same old shit, then that is the author's business. But when there is no issue up for discussion, or when there is an issue but the author responds with nothing more than "typical NEOCON response" and other mindless insults (which has caused aformentioned thread locking in the past), it serves no purpose here other than wasting bandwidth and trolling in the community. That's my .02, at least. Feel free to lob the same old insults if it makes you feel better.But it's really time to either put your resentment and closet infatuation behind you (maybe with a cute little "Fuck Bush" style sig line, or embrace the dark obsession in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner by actually presenting issues for discussion, and when you hear something you don't like, make an argument against the post instead of the same troll/rant that unravels ito an insult fest when somebody writes something that doesn't slavishly agree with your sentiments.


Well ,lol,we could sexy things up,with stories about the five hooker scandals.All republican,and some involving gay hookers.

No one got jazzed up about Clinton,until a blow job was introduced into the media stream.

How do you feel about gay hooker sex,and republicans?

lol


http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/61279/

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxNSU_6qeq8

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/10/2007 11:31:19 PM   
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There you go... You get to raise all the hairy (pun intended) subjects about those you don't like, some sort of quasi-constructive discussion ensues, everybody wins!

With respect to your issue, I don't see it as a Dem/Pub until it serves one of our agendas to push for criticism or ouster. Hypocrisy and corruption in office sickens me regardless of political affiliation. I can't say which brand of outrage is stronger, but they are different. On one hand the guy who is representing me/my issue is making my position look bad (to those who fall for logical fallacies). On the other hand, the guy who is not representing me/my issue is just twisting the dagger with his contemptable face on the screen.

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 12:42:53 AM   
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Gee, do you think Bush might not get re-elected?

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 6:26:11 AM   
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1.

he was born

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 6:58:42 AM   
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I think this obsession that some have with "Bush Sucks", is funny. If he loved the democrats as much as he says, he would be showing all the great plans for change, and how they will benefit us. Instead, just like politicians do, he shows how bad the other guy is. Yeah it seems unhealthy, but he seems to enjoy it so much, I think he really has a crush on Bush. Just another example of how the cheerleaders need to be sent away with the politicians. They are all part of what is wrong with politics.

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 9:13:46 AM   
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My understanding if you just count the number of criminal convictions and prison terms of people working for a President during his term, it would appear Bill Clinton Adminstration was the most corrupt one.

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 9:15:11 AM   
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I liked Bill tho. How can you argue w the biggest peacetime expansion in history?  i stress the word- peacetime

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 9:41:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

My understanding if you just count the number of criminal convictions and prison terms of people working for a President during his term, it would appear Bill Clinton Adminstration was the most corrupt one.


Yeah, and didn't the most people die mysteriously who were associated with the Clintons too?
Also, I don't think that Bush is "Republican" or "Conservative."
He's the representative of big business.

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 10:15:49 AM   
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Bush is an idiot, but if we really want to talk more about sex we need to change the topic to Clinton. 

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 10:18:22 AM   
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You mean if we want to quibble endlessly about the definition of sex?

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 11:09:28 AM   
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Pahunk?  Peacetime?  How do you get war in Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, and several Balkan nations to be peace?

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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 12:38:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pulpsmack

I would give you full faith and credit without a link, given your unhealthy obsession with Bush, which seems like a borderline case of  passionate infatuation. Seriously, Every time I open this forum and see the word "Bush" I don't even have to look to know who is on one of his usual rants. Virtually EVERY topic written is some rant about Bush. It's not even some critical discussion about a belief of his miscalculations or an issue presented. It is just plain old "Fuck Bush!!! and anybody who says otherwise is a NEOCON!"

It's old.

It's boring

This obsession speaks volumes about personal priorities and free time.

Nobody cares.

Newsflash... he isn't a very popular president.Yeah, we got that. You don't like Bush... yeah, we got that, like 256 posts ago. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if you have more posts on the site complaining about his scandals than the number of scandals he was involved in! So here you go... FUCK BUSH, BUSH SUCKS, Anybody who says different is a NEOCON and an idiot. I am a NEOCON because it took me more than one paragraph to say "fuck Bush" blah blah blah blah Wahhhhh Waaaahhhh Waaaaaahhhhhhh!


If there was a more constructive way to say this from the point of view of the issue I would, instead of stepping on the "personal line" (so mods or disapproving readers, I apologize if I colored outside of the lines). But the fact is that the last time that I mentioned this constructively in another Bush-Bashing hate rant of a thread, (without any question about "coloring outside of the lines) our esteemed author resumed his "NEOCON" tirade against me and anybody who didn't scream FUCK BUSH and his topic got locked.  

If a member wishes to portray himself in a certain way by revealing his unhealthy obsession with a public figure by making multiple threads in a week over the same old shit, then that is the author's business. But when there is no issue up for discussion, or when there is an issue but the author responds with nothing more than "typical NEOCON response" and other mindless insults (which has caused aformentioned thread locking in the past), it serves no purpose here other than wasting bandwidth and trolling in the community. That's my .02, at least. Feel free to lob the same old insults if it makes you feel better.But it's really time to either put your resentment and closet infatuation behind you (maybe with a cute little "Fuck Bush" style sig line, or embrace the dark obsession in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner by actually presenting issues for discussion, and when you hear something you don't like, make an argument against the post instead of the same troll/rant that unravels ito an insult fest when somebody writes something that doesn't slavishly agree with your sentiments.




There is very little actual discussion about any of the political issues on this forum.  There are some posters who find Bush very distasteful, but are willing to engage in thoughtful discussion, but the sheer volume of unthinking, reactionary emotional verbal diarrhea from a certain number of other posters simply drowns them out.

What I find interesting about the OP in this thread is his attempt to further twist context and meaning for his political agenda ie, because there is a "scandal", Bush must therefore be guilty of something.

The definition of scandal:  a widely publicized incident involving allegations of wrong-doing, disgrace, or moral outrage. A scandal may be based on reality, or the product of false allegations, or a mixture of both.

Notice ... "allegations".  In the OP's worldview, accusing someone that you otherwise disagree with is tantamount to a conviction.

Of course, he is the same type of partisan who defended Clinton against his many scandals because "there was no proof". 

Different ox being gored, different standards.  Political hypocrisy at its finest.

Some thoughtful people might even think that many of the "scandals' were/are political motived, just so that there can BE a "scandal".

Firm


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RE: How many scandals has bush been involved in? - 10/11/2007 12:59:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

My understanding if you just count the number of criminal convictions and prison terms of people working for a President during his term, it would appear Bill Clinton Adminstration was the most corrupt one.


Ha-ha, Can you say "fuzzy math"?

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