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RE: RIAA forcing single mother to pay $222,000 settlement - 10/6/2007 7:47:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

I dont think people mind paying an artist for music. The problem is when you pay for a $15 CD...the artist gets maybe 2 bucks.

I think most artists on a major label would be happy to get $2 for each CD.

I recall a documentary on the group TLC. They sold 10,000,000 or so copies of Crazy, Sexy, Cool, their breakout CD and got 80¢ for each. Out of the $8,000,000, after various charges that the record company and their own reps (as well as taxes, I suppose) carved out, they got about $50,000 each.

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RE: RIAA forcing single mother to pay $222,000 settlement - 10/6/2007 7:55:02 PM

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While I have no love for the RIAA, and think that suing the people who are most likely to buy your product is a poor business model...I think she should have settled

Granted that newspaper accounts don't give anywhere near all the details, from what I've read she was on pretty thin ice. She had to have known the risks of going to trial; if she didn't her lawyer was negligent for not telling her.

As an aside, it is a bit more d/l friendly north of the 49th. We pay a levy on all blank media (which is not set particularly high) that is distributed to the rights-holders. Accordingly the courts have pretty much ruled file sharing is okay.

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RE: RIAA forcing single mother to pay $222,000 settlement - 10/6/2007 11:21:27 PM

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RE: RIAA forcing single mother to pay $222,000 settlement - 10/7/2007 9:49:54 AM

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Well it was illegal. However I think instead of going after the kids (she was young when this suit first began) they should have gone after the servers that offered the 'free' downloads.If it were me, I would declare bankruptcy.

Just to clarify - in a P2P network if you are 'sharing' as well as downloading other people are pulling files from your PC so estentially you are the server. With some P2P networks there may be routers to tell you where other file sharers are but they are not in possession of copywritten material. I don't think its fair to go after file sharing network because not everything on the network is copywritten. It would be a bit like saying the postal service is illegal because some people use to to mail illegal material. The postal service isn't at fault, you have to find the people using it for illegal purposes.

That said there is an easy way not to get caught. It's not in the spirit of file sharing but it works. Download away - BUT DON'T SHARE! What these company's are doing is installing the same programs people use, search for their own material, then go after the IP address who served up their copywritten stuff. They can not do the opposite. They cannot serve up their stuff and go after people for taking it. That's entrapment.

Another way is to use the newsgroups. The newsgroups do have servers but they don't serve actaul binaries. Rather they serve up text encodings of binaries which your newsreader decodes back to the binary. This text is unique and, so far, has left them immune to lawsuits. I'm sure this too will change someday but for now it's another way to go.

IMO what these company's need to do is provide incentives for legally purchasing their stuff. In the 80's nearly every song on an LP was good. These days they spread the equalavent of one good CD across 3 and give you shit songs inbetween. How many people have bought CD's these days only to find that the only good song or two on it are the ones you heard on the radio (which prompted you to buy the CD in the first place) only to find that the rest of the CD was crap? How's this for an idea Mr. Sue-Happy-Media-Company - stop ripping me off and I'll do the same?

How about proof of purchase codes on the inside of a CD which granted discounts on official murchandise, oncert tickets or exclusive access to a bands website?

How about a fair price for the product? iTunes is well on the way but I think $1 a song is still too high. Make that 25 cents or hell, maybe even 50 cents a song and I'll consider starting a legal collection.

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