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Christian Dommes - 10/2/2007 10:09:00 AM   
LadyLynx


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**I have wanted to post this question for a while, but had trouble figuring out the wording. This question is for Christian women who identify as Dominants. Also welcome female switches to answear. I have alittle trouble wrapping my brain around this concept.**
Do you feel conflicted about being a female Dominant and being a Christian? If you don't how did you get to that point?  Do people (family/friends/neighbors/co-workers/fellow parishoners.) know about your relationship dynamics? What do they think? 

**Please NO flaming on this thread.  I am only seeking to understand this view.**

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RE: Christian Dommes - 10/2/2007 2:35:36 PM   
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Meh.  I'm not a woman.  I'm not a Christian.  I am, however, the son of a former minister, and one of my ex-fiancees proudly calls herself both a lesbian and a Christian.

So why post a response?  Well, for one, to get the topic going...For another, because I do have a passing familiarity with the Bible   I can assure you that there is nothing in the Bible that prohibits the BDSM lifestyle per se, literally or figuratively.  If, by chance, you are referring to the 'conflict' of a woman taking a dominant role, look to the women of the Bible.  Most of them are portrayed as flawed [I prefer the term 'human', though others just call them sinful], but ultimately their personalities are strong.  You can accredit this strength to their life experiences, their faith, or both.

If you are referring to the 'sinfulness' of physical pleasure, consider that BDSM does not exclusively require sexual contact.  Sex and sin are considered synonymous going back to that romp in the Garden with an apple and a snake...but it is condoned when performed by two people married in the eyes of God.

If you are referring to the concept of a woman serving her husband, look at the way a woman's role is actually defined in the Bible.  She bears the children.  She tends to the house.  Nothing else is defined in black and white, only inferred.  Therefore, if the 'man of the house' is submissive by nature sexually, and a Dominant wife pleasures him by feeding his submission through her control over him, it doesn't break any covenants.

In short, if you take the word of the Bible in either a literal or figurative fashion, there is no conflict between being a Dominant woman with a strong personality and being a Christian.  If you take your Bible seriously, practice the sexual aspects with your other married half only, and while it should be automatic, I'll add - the practice must be consentual, not only for the sake of common sense of the 'ethics' of BDSM, but for proper reconciliation between being Christian and being Domme.

Now, if you want a good example of conflict, consider my aforementioned ex-fiancee.  The modern definition of her sexuality blatantly contradicts the Bible, and may be considered to fall under the lovely, yet gruesome, passage where they talk about stoning people to death.  Yet she believes in God and calls herself a Christian.  How does one get to that point, you might wonder?

In her case it's a matter of translation.  The original text of the Bible refers to two men laying together, not two women.  Homosexuality is inferred but not stated outright, unless one reads a modernized or translated version of the Bible.  She does not consider her sexuality blasphemous because of this literal-driven view.  Is she correct in her interpretation?  There's two sides to that fence, and I'm not going to take either, personally.  However, it demonstrates how an appreciation of both the text and its meaning are required if one is to take the Bible to heart...true not just in her case, but in the case you have mentioned.  I've offered my translation, perhaps others will do the same in order to help you better understand the view you wish to come to terms with.

Best of luck.



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RE: Christian Dommes - 10/2/2007 4:36:01 PM   
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I was brought up in an mildly pro-feminism/agnostic/former catholic household. (we stopped going when I was 6.) and whenever the subject of Christianity came up, they (my mom mostly.) would say that men used their view of the bible as an excuse for supressing women. (Which I do believe is true........up to a point.)  What I believe now: I am a pagan, have been for several years. I believe that ALL religions are valid and have many facets of truth.  Most people whom are aquanted with Christianity in some form are usually presented with the view of it being Patriarchal (sp?)

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RE: Christian Dommes - 10/2/2007 5:55:53 PM   
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There were leaders of both sex in the christian creed.  Most women were not leaders though.  I once lived this life and were I to continue; I would have to declair myself a Queen of my realm to assure my right to be dominant. {smile}

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RE: Christian Dommes - 10/2/2007 10:23:39 PM   
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I don't see a "conflict."
I was raised Catholic too but just don't practice it anymore with all the scandals in the RCC.
The last time I checked I didn't realise that I had to have my sexlife "approved" by any religion. I mean would you go up to a stranger on the street and seek "approval" for what you do in your own time?
God made sex for us to enjoy it and to procreate.
I don't know how different religions decided that it's a "bad" thing!
And if someone does try to tell you that then tell them to go fuck themselves!

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