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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/15/2007 7:49:30 PM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		I guess the question to ask is WHY you are seeking only a white sub?  Do you have some desire to cause harm to white women?  Other than that race is not important to me, although I have come across the situation of having a black male in the sub position and found "boy" as a term to be a bad idea to both of us, any suggestions on another term?

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/15/2007 8:05:35 PM   
RRafe


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Status: offline 		I have an attitude prefference.

I'm color blind.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/15/2007 8:35:57 PM   
domiguy


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Status: offline 		For the past two years I have been searching for a sub of Aleutian and African mix....I know y'all don't love the cold...But what the fuck! So my endless search continues ...So sad.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/15/2007 8:49:36 PM   
SirEbonyPhoenix


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Status: offline 		Perhaps I didn't make myself clear when I stated that skin color to me isn't a prime factor in seeking a sub/slave, but their character, honesty, willingness to serve and integrity is. As to your question about how to address your sub, well if he is a man of color, I'd simply call him either "pet", "slave" or "sub", but it's really up to B/both of Y/you. Hope this was a little bit helpful to you!

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/15/2007 9:02:06 PM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		I was replying to the original post, sorry, didn't mean to specifically reply to yours and not sure how or why it does that and yes it was helpful, thank you.
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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 4:58:53 AM   
julietsierra


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Status: offline 		Hi Misterdee:

We exist. Attend the munches. We're all around you. Ok, I'm not since I already belong to someone, but we ARE out there - throughout Oakland and Macomb County, so right in your back yard.

Good luck to you in your search.

juliet

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 7:48:54 AM   
BeachMystress


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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

stop looking at the outside and start looking at the inside? most people don't want to be wanted for their outsides but for whats on the inside....

BINGO! I've had black submissives before, but when a black man approaches me wanting to sub specifically to a white woman I am put off! I am not my skin color! I am a woman.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 7:57:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		When I heard about a black mistress that likes to shit on only white people, it occured to me just how much D/s can be used to cloak racism. Granted that those being shit on have that kink, but for her to make a point about how black she is and how white they are made me wonder if it was the kink she was into or just acting out her own racist tendency. 
 
Weren't we all supposed to be color blind since the 60's anyway?

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 8:24:22 AM   
LATEXBABY64


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Status: offline 		race will always be played in some way or some form. It is not only about skin collar.. but status levels as well. blaming someone or using someone to cover for our own mistakes is a lack of responsibility and poor character.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 8:28:34 AM   
abda


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Status: offline 		To be honest I don't think we will were ever live in color blind world.  Most say they color blind until they are faced with a situation where race or enthinicity comes into play. I treat people the same no matter what their race or enthinicity maybe.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 8:55:03 AM   
julietsierra


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Status: offline 		Man! Y'know, I've always been attracted to people who seem to have darker skin tones. Since I began dating when I was 16, every single person I've ever dated has had dark hair and dark eyes except one. I never set out to look for people with those characteristics, but quite evidently, that's what I was attracted to. For some reason, as long as they are caucasian, it's ok. But the moment someone crosses that nebulous "racial" line, it's all of a sudden a terrible thing.

I like men with darker skin and darker hair. It doesn't imply an objectification kind of fetish where the MAN is inconsequential. It only implies that I like men with darker skin and darker hair - no different than those who think red hair on a woman is hot, or blonde or whatever. Why is it wrong for this man to admit that he is looking for a women with lighter skin and hair?

There are LOTS of reasons to appreciate an interracial relationship, not the least of it is enjoying the dichotomy of skin tones when two people are together. I don't presume to know Misterdee's reasons for preferring an interracial relationship, but then, neither does anyone else here either.

When I met my Master, I wasn't looking specifically for an interracial relationship, but given my past preferences, it was a natural progression. I can say that for a LOT of reasons, ALL of them, my own, and NONE of them being a fetishizing of the race issue, if I EVER found myself single again, I am highly doubtful I would be so open in the future. I love and appreciate interracial relationships and would definitely prioritize my search so that I could achieve that once again.

So this man knows what he likes... so what? I don't have any idea why people are so offended by him stating his preferences. Unless he actually comes out and says he likes to degrade those who are caucasian, why is everyone knee-jerking in that direction? If someone was caucasian and said he preferred a caucasian girl, no one would have issues with that! What the hell is so wrong about a black man preferring a white girl? And just whose cloaked racism are we really dealing with here?

juliet

edited to say that I wasn't referring to your post abda. I just used that darn box at the end of the page.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 9:03:32 AM   
MrRodgers


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Status: offline 		I love women of color...ALL colors. I love women with that scrumptious olive-skinned tone. The again I am a slut so while I don't need to be one, my sex, domination and kink...are colorblind.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 9/16/2007 9:05:10 AM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		   I second that Juliet, it's about preference.     I think there are many who prefer those only in their own race but do not state as much because it is sort of expected.    I think that if he had of stated, where can 'I find just slender women' or just 'BBW's' his thread would have gotten just as blasted.      

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RE: Interracial d/s - 10/9/2007 10:17:29 AM   
MasterC70


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Status: offline 		There is also the flip side of things too. Some white males prefer the company of black women just as the OP is a black male who prefers white women. I think black women have an exotic beauty that their white counterparts don't. It's not something you can point to and say, this is why, it's just there. Everyone is different, though we all have the same basic DNA foundation. If everyone always liked the same thing, whether brand of potato chip or choice of potential partner, it would be a very dull world.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 10/9/2007 2:06:18 PM   
Pulpsmack


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Status: offline 		You are black
You possess certain other physical characteristics (age/height/weight)
You are into a specialized lifestyle
You possess "X" intellect and "Y' personality

There may be white women who are into you, but for these "ridiculous, freaky things" you are obsessed with.

There may be women into the lifestyle who are into your kink but not with a black guy, or with a guy built like you. Maybe there are those who are fine with everything about you but then you open your mouth and something about the way you come across is like nails on the chalk board.

As much as your issue raises "topical curiosity" it merits no special attention from any of the other "why is it..." topics. We all have our variables that make up our strengths and weakness to X (which are seen as weaknesses/strengths to Y). If you/he/she/I am in this for real, then you have to contend with someone compatable with your kink, as well as your vanilla requirements. Vanilla requirements are a daunting task. Vanilla + kink compatability in the long term is monumental. Add extra variables such as different race, strict religious/political beliefs, etc and you make the monumental something biblical.

Those are the breaks. The best thing you can do is examine yourself and honestly determine if there are any shortcommings with you style of communication, delivery, personality, and then work on those you spot. Fair or unfair, you only have the power to change yourself, not those around you. You also might want to evalute those you are pursuing. You might be looking for the "stereotypically white" white women (whatever that means) and something about their personality/tastes/beliefs doesn't agree with the likes of you (color/phys attributes/personality etc.). If you cannot change yourself to adapt to their tastes, then you might need to alter your tastes.

Finally, what many said was true. If you look hard enough, white skin = big tits = long legs... it's an attractive attribute in the background, but it makes for a shitty frame for the big picture. Can you the big tit lover establish a LTR dynamic with a girl who matches all your requirements, and substantially all your wants except for big tits? If the answer is no, you will find out why the "worthy ones" with big tits avoid you. So too may be your problem here if your focus is that deeply on the color of skin.  

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RE: Interracial d/s - 10/9/2007 11:30:54 PM   
MasterC70


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Status: offline 		You make a good point Pulpsmack. It reminds me of a story I heard some time back. This man was asked why he'd never married. He told his friend that he'd wanted to and even set out to find the perfect woman. He found a kind woman, but she was too plain. He'd then found a beautiful woman who was unkind, etc. Finally he found her, the perfect woman, kind, beautiful, the one he'd looked for for so long. "Well, why didn't you marry her," his friend asked. "Well," he replied. "It's really very sad. It seems she was looking for the perfect man."

Another thought: If you look at any work by an artist of chinese descent you will find a spot of imperfection somewhere, whether it's sculpture or other work. This is intentional, as an acknowledgement of the fact that true perfection doesn't exist in the material world in which we all live. Nothing mortal, or made by mortal artiface can ever really be perfect.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 10/10/2007 1:34:01 AM   
seeksfemslave


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Status: offline 		Seems to me I detect a whiff of PC thinking.. I mean all the responses saying colour doesnt matter to me, at root we are all the same,  character is the most important etc etc etc.

To a certain extent this is a "wish fullfilment" or "off beat" world, so if MrD wants a white subbe. I say I hope he finds one. As to how to go about finding her.....No idea.

Just an afterthought: I watched an old episode of Jerry Springer yesterday when 3 Black women "beat up" on a  Black man  who was about the same size as MrD.
Two of the woman were almost as big lol. So maybe MrD is tired of such things and wants a change.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 10/10/2007 2:04:18 AM   
TheChastiser


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Status: offline 		I would say that as long as you have a clear picture of what you want, there is nothing wrong in stating such. however do be aware of the fact that the narrower the parameters, the smaller chance you have of finding someone.

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RE: Interracial d/s - 10/10/2007 6:17:52 AM   
CelticPrince


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Status: offline 		misterdee,

Aside from all the comments prior to thgis, just use time and patience. There are plenty of white subs here that want need a black "D". Grins most seem to be redheads.

CP

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RE: Interracial d/s - 10/10/2007 9:44:28 AM   
DarkDaddyZ


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Status: offline 		But what if interracial play is part of his kink?????  I mean like those who like bigger people and so on....




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