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How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:18:05 PM   
MistressSassy66


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Status: offline 		Is your need for kink so overwhelming that you would risk your life
just to session?

An example: a submissive has had 3 heart attacks and a 2nd stent put in.
The doctors say shes healthy enough to work,but shes still overweight and
over a certain age where it is more likely to happen again.
When I refuse a session she gets angry,I say I cant be held responsible if something happens.All she can do is justify that she'll be fine.Afterall the doctor said so.
I'm sticking to My guns and not doing it even if shes ticked.

So My question is how far are Y/you willing to go,to satisfy your kink?

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:30:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would never risk my life nor wellbeing to get my kink satisfied. Kink is just what it is... a kink. It's not oxygen, I can well live without it. But having it satisfied is just icing on the cake of life 

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:31:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		nope.  My life is more valuable.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:32:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Working on the presumption that you are asking this in the professional context, I would steer clear of anyone who pursued kink despite major health risks.  If nothing else, their estate could sue for negligence, wrongful death, and whatever else the lawyers could dream up.

Would I risk my long-term health and well being just to indulge in a little kink.  No, I wouldn't.  Kink is fun, but I like living more.


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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:32:26 PM   
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Is your need for kink so overwhelming that you would risk your life
just to session

Absolutly not.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:34:18 PM   
instynctive


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I wouldn't touch her either, and I think You are smart for refusing.


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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:36:11 PM   
camille65


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Status: offline 		Kink as in physical kink? No I wouldn't engage in any physical aspects of BDSM just the mental ones 'til fully healed.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:46:23 PM   
SubmissiveBear


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Status: offline 		well shes probably miserable without the kink, so let her die happy!!!

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:47:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		The bottom line is that I'm not going to live forever. When I go, I hope I'm doing what I enjoy most. I would rather see someone die happy than live misserable. Otherwise, what's the point in living?  

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:50:15 PM   
LATEXBABY64


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ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

Is your need for kink so overwhelming that you would risk your life
just to session?

An example: a submissive has had 3 heart attacks and a 2nd stent put in.
The doctors say shes healthy enough to work,but shes still overweight and
over a certain age where it is more likely to happen again.
When I refuse a session she gets angry,I say I cant be held responsible if something happens.All she can do is justify that she'll be fine.Afterall the doctor said so.
I'm sticking to My guns and not doing it even if shes ticked.

So My question is how far are Y/you willing to go,to satisfy your kink?


it is the right thing to do who wants to be held liable for someone Else's stupidity

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:52:01 PM   
feastie


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Status: offline 		Just because she would choose to participate in an activity which could induce or exacerbate a medical issue, doesn't mean that you should feel obliged to assist her.  I would feel more obliged to control her diet and other activities to improve her health.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 1:54:20 PM   
CuriousLord


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ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66
Is your need for kink so overwhelming that you would risk your life
just to session?
[Insert manic laughter here.]  No.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66
So My question is how far are Y/you willing to go,to satisfy your kink?
Part of my kink is continued health.  I typically take measures that aren't overly evasive to maintain it.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 2:09:49 PM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Working on the presumption that you are asking this in the professional context, I would steer clear of anyone who pursued kink despite major health risks.  If nothing else, their estate could sue for negligence, wrongful death, and whatever else the lawyers could dream up.

Would I risk my long-term health and well being just to indulge in a little kink.  No, I wouldn't.  Kink is fun, but I like living more.



I actually wasnt thinking about it in the Professional context,thats
a whole different set of legal problems.

Something else that bothers Me is the fact that she's more than
willing to risk it.I feel offended actually that she would even suggest
I put Myself in that position.

Okay ...I think that was more of a rant than a question.
Thanks to E/everyone for the replies.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 2:24:01 PM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		If she's healthy enough to exercise she ought to be able to take a moderate session. If you're that unsure, write down exactly what activities are planned, with severity rating of one to ten and have her doctor sign off on it. Better yet, have her sign a release asking him to talk to you so you know exactly what he says.

50 years ago it was believed that having sex would bring on a second heart attack, now we know it isn't true. Hell 50 years ago a heart patient was told not to exert himself, no exercise. Now we know that isn't the right thing at all. Could she have a heart attack during a session? Sure. Is it equally likely she'll suffer another one while in the grocery store? Yup.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 2:39:19 PM   
lateralist1


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Status: offline 		Discovering my kink has actually helped me to become emotionally well.
I've never had a diagnosed mental health problem but I have always known that I had real problems.
When I first discovered that there were lots of people a bit like me I became obsessed with finding a ltr partner or partners so I could 'live it' rather than just play.
I am much more grounded now but my sexuality is still a very big part of my life.
I put my life on the line in lots of ways. I smoke for one thing.
For me quality of life is more important that quantity.
However I empathise with  you MistressSassy66. Your sub is not thinking of your well being at all. If something happens to her you will be left to face the music alone.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 2:41:29 PM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Celeste43

If she's healthy enough to exercise she ought to be able to take a moderate session. If you're that unsure, write down exactly what activities are planned, with severity rating of one to ten and have her doctor sign off on it. Better yet, have her sign a release asking him to talk to you so you know exactly what he says.

50 years ago it was believed that having sex would bring on a second heart attack, now we know it isn't true. Hell 50 years ago a heart patient was told not to exert himself, no exercise. Now we know that isn't the right thing at all.


Could she have a heart attack during a session? Sure. Is it equally likely she'll suffer another one while in the grocery store? Yup.


That last part is why I wont risk it,My submisives be it dedicated 'worms' or
otherwise mean too much to Me to take a chance.
I didnt have a problem after the 2nd one,but a 3rd,its just too high of a risk for Me personally.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 2:47:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

Is your need for kink so overwhelming that you would risk your life
just to session?

An example: a submissive has had 3 heart attacks and a 2nd stent put in.
The doctors say shes healthy enough to work,but shes still overweight and
over a certain age where it is more likely to happen again.
When I refuse a session she gets angry,I say I cant be held responsible if something happens.All she can do is justify that she'll be fine.Afterall the doctor said so.
I'm sticking to My guns and not doing it even if shes ticked.

So My question is how far are Y/you willing to go,to satisfy your kink?


she could die today eating one more twinkie, or die today getting flogged; which would she rather die from?  i'd personally rather die getting flogged, though i could see how you might not want to take that risk being the top and all.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 3:02:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dunno, in that direct situation, no I probably wouldn't.

But I'm someone who if I do NOT get cancer or diabetes before I am 50 will be virtually a miracle- but I still don't eat as well as I could or lead the best lifestyle as I should. 

We find it easier to take life and death risks when it's slow progression and intangible, but the risks are just as real. 

In that situation, I'd simply tell her "not now" which is very different from a "no."  If they weren't ok with that, well that's really their issue.

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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 3:19:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66
Something else that bothers Me is the fact that she's more than
willing to risk it.I feel offended actually that she would even suggest
I put Myself in that position.


I have learned not to be surprised at the extremes some people will go to in order to satisfy a craving for kink.

I chatted briefly once with a woman who insisted she was quite willing to play "without limits"--literally, even to the extent of stating she would make sure her daughter was provided for in case the play resulted in her death.

Needless to say, I ended the chat very shortly after seeing that little admission!


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RE: How important is Y/your Kink? - 9/3/2007 3:33:34 PM   
MistressSassy66


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I dunno, in that direct situation, no I probably wouldn't.

But I'm someone who if I do NOT get cancer or diabetes before I am 50 will be virtually a miracle- but I still don't eat as well as I could or lead the best lifestyle as I should. 

We find it easier to take life and death risks when it's slow progression and intangible, but the risks are just as real. 

In that situation, I'd simply tell her "not now" which is very different from a "no."  If they weren't ok with that, well that's really their issue.



I wanted to say 'not now' but didnt want to build hope.
Knowing that diet/exercise wont change plays a role in the decision
of just saying 'no'.


I realize that death comes,but I dont want to be
responsible for it even if they are smiling. You know what I mean






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