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ORIGINAL: Stephann
And... so?
It's hardly a secret that if you can create sound, the government can hear it. Granted this is a fair step from the shotgun style tape recordings, but this is the price our 'security' comes at.
The question isn't if the goverment should have access to these tools or not. Obviously, they do and will so long as we, the taxpayers, pay for them, and we, the voters, elect officials that set these wheels into motion. We, the citizens, carry 100% of the blame here. Pretending otherwise is shirking that responsibility.
Now, with that out of the way, those who want to encrypt their signals still can. Everything from slang, to sophisticated forms of digital encryption are not only legal, but plausible means of keeping your communications secure. When I talk on the phone, I -assume- the government is listening. If they're that desperate to know what toppings I put on my papa johns pizza, they're welcome to it.
Stephan
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
~Ben Franklin~
I think this quote addresses your "so" question,quite well.
Why do I get this feeling that bush is spying on his political opponents?Would anyone be surprised if he did?
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Senate Inquiry Into Memos That Went Astray Nears End
January 23, 2004
By NEIL A. LEWIS
The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/23/politics/23JUDG.html
WASHINGTON, Jan. 22 - The Senate's sergeant-at-arms said on Thursday that he was nearing an end to an investigation into how several confidential memorandums written by Democratic staff aides about dealing with judicial nominations ended up in the hands of Republican staff members.
The investigation by the office of the sergeant-at-arms, William Pickle, was undertaken last November after parts of the memorandums appeared in news accounts in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Times and a column by Robert Novak.
Some of the memorandums from the offices of Senators Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, both Democrats, discussed strategy and tactics on dealing with President Bush's judicial nominees.
Democrats and Republicans in the Senate have been engaged in a bitter feud over Mr. Bush's judicial nominees and the issue of the memorandums has only added to the anger in the Judiciary Committee.
After the Democrats complained that their confidential memorandums were being stolen and distributed to conservative news outlets, Mr. Pickle began an investigation on Nov. 19. He had committee computers seized and used Secret Service agents and a computer expert from General Dynamics to determine whether and how the Democrats' computer files were hacked into as part of a possible improper political operation.
He said through a spokeswoman on Thursday that he expected to issue a report soon to the Judiciary Committee. The progress of Mr. Pickle's investigation was reported most recently by The Boston Globe on Thursday.
Manuel C. Miranda, a former Republican Judiciary Committee staff member, whose name appeared as a recipient of one of the Democratic e-mail messages and who has been questioned by Mr. Pickle's investigators, said in an interview Thursday that he knew how the documents were obtained by Republicans. He said that a junior member on the staff of Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah and chairman of the Judiciary Committee, had discovered a flaw in the computer system that allowed him to read some of the Democratic computer traffic.
Mr. Miranda, who is now a senior staff aide to Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee, the Republican leader, said that the junior aide was reading the Democratic documents from about May 2002 until the early fall of 2002. The aide, who has since left the Senate, passed some of those memorandums to Mr. Miranda and other Hatch staff members, Mr. Miranda said.
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Senator Hatch has said at various times that he did not think the issue of the memorandums was a serious matter and at other times that he thought it was a great ethical violation. He declined to comment on Thursday, saying through a spokesman that the matter was under investigation by Mr. Pickle's office.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0710-21.htm
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