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Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 11:47:37 AM   
popeye1250


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With all the defective and now *dangerous* products comming out of China I sense a business opportunity.
The next thing you know they'll be importing diseases in clothing.
Who in their right mind would want to buy toys for children that have high levels of lead or other poisons in them?
That's what's happening now.
I'd rather pay more money for toys that are made in the U.S.A.
I have a friend who "buys from local artisans."
You can get just about anything at those fairs, shops etc.
This seems to be an opportunity for someone with a little money to start a company making toys in the U.S.A.
I'd buy stock in a company like that.


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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 11:53:22 AM   
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The reason people buy toys painted with lead paint, is because they buy from big name US dealers who do not do their own 'quality control'... and so the customer had no idea there was lead in the paint...any more than did the US dealer who commissioned the toys!
 
Tell me, how will we know that some artisian does not use lead-based paint?  Perhaps someone finds the stuff on sale somewhere...and dips a thousand little cars in bright, red paint....to sell at the local fair.
 
It's the same with ingredients in food...it's a buyer beware kinda thing; know your sources!!! 
 
This has nothing to do with the Chinese as a people...but everything about your bigotry; again.  <shakes head>
 
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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 12:10:52 PM   
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This seems to be an opportunity for someone with a little money to start a company making toys in the U.S.A. I'd buy stock in a company like that.


No start up company could afford the product liability insurance or would risk exposure to the law suit lottery environment that exists in the US.

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 12:17:05 PM   
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as a kid i had more fun with pots and pans. and stuff around the house. later i always built a tree house.

the notion that a child must have lotsa toys is dreary.

the best gift you can giove a child is an education

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 12:37:06 PM   
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as a kid i had more fun with pots and pans. and stuff around the house. later i always built a tree house.

the notion that a child must have lotsa toys is dreary.

the best gift you can giove a child is an education


PaHunk, I agree.
We had more fun with stuff we made ourselves, tarzan swings, go-carts, tree houses, all built with "commandeered" materials.

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 12:47:08 PM   
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Plus, who can afford US wages to compete against Wal-Mart?  I can buy 10 plastic toys there for what a US worker can produce in an hour.

When people stop looking for cheap toys, then it may be anything more than a way for a few people to make a living.  'till then, keep your full time job.

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 12:50:09 PM   
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I sometimes think we've gone overboard with the worries about a lot of things. Not that I think our kids toys should be made using lead based paint, I certainly do not. But... I grew up in a house that was painted with lead paint; the heating pipes were insulated with asbestos, and redone by my dad every couple of years. In my "mad scientist" teen years I played with mercury, and made metal mixtures of lead, mercury and other toxic things. My Dad made it to 90 in good health, until he fell and broke his hip. I am still in good health.
I can't understand how I was able to survive all these years.


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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 1:06:54 PM   
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as a kid i had more fun with pots and pans. and stuff around the house. later i always built a tree house.

the notion that a child must have lotsa toys is dreary.

the best gift you can giove a child is an education


PaHunk, I agree.
We had more fun with stuff we made ourselves, tarzan swings, go-carts, tree houses, all built with "commandeered" materials.


we certainly got out of the house more too.  bike racing- skate board- up ramps. all with simple stuff around the house. weld hike the railtracks.  pick berries. explore.

camping fishing.  heck- childhood was F-U-N!

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 2:59:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

as a kid i had more fun with pots and pans. and stuff around the house. later i always built a tree house.

the notion that a child must have lotsa toys is dreary.

the best gift you can giove a child is an education


PaHunk, I agree.
We had more fun with stuff we made ourselves, tarzan swings, go-carts, tree houses, all built with "commandeered" materials.


we certainly got out of the house more too.  bike racing- skate board- up ramps. all with simple stuff around the house. weld hike the railtracks.  pick berries. explore.

camping fishing.  heck- childhood was F-U-N!


It sure was fun.
Some of these fat little bastards today could never outrun the cops!
They'd be having heart attacks and weezing from their "asthma."

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 3:22:04 PM   
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I sometimes think we've gone overboard with the worries about a lot of things. Not that I think our kids toys should be made using lead based paint, I certainly do not. But... I grew up in a house that was painted with lead paint; the heating pipes were insulated with asbestos, and redone by my dad every couple of years. In my "mad scientist" teen years I played with mercury, and made metal mixtures of lead, mercury and other toxic things. My Dad made it to 90 in good health, until he fell and broke his hip. I am still in good health.
I can't understand how I was able to survive all these years.


I agree with that sentiment.  They have a new scare every few years about something.  I remember when I was a kid in the early 80's and people were scared to let their kids out on Halloween.  Supposedly, people were poisoning candy.  Part of the fun in being a kid is that feeling of invincibility.  We did all sorts of crazy shit when I was a kid.  We had neighborhood fire cracker wars every summer around the 4th of July.  We literally shot bottle rockets and roman candles at each other.  We rode our bikes without helmets, made homemade bombs, shot each other with bb guns, jumped off of a cliff into an old open pit mine that was filled in with water, and so on.  I seriously doubt that a little lead paint is going to cause anyone much harm.   

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 9:45:10 PM   
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I blame the parents.  Stop buying into the scares.

Think about the risk.  It may cause a disease 30 years down the road, but they can watch hours of TV, the effects of which are entirely unknown?

If someone needs to explain it to you, and you still don't quite get it, it can't be that important.  If it's something you grew up with, and you consider yourself well-balanced, aim to balance out that risk with a benefit.

Coddling is just gonna make 'em all a bunch of sissies.

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/23/2007 10:55:24 PM   
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Hick, it's a little more serious than that.
They've found antifreeze in toothpaste that was "Made in China".
That stuff will kill you if you ingest it!
And, I wouldn't want to be doing 70 mph on one of their defective tires.

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/24/2007 4:34:37 AM   
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also- we go blind and grow hair on palms if we masterbate!

lol

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/24/2007 4:35:48 AM   
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Hick, it's a little more serious than that.
They've found antifreeze in toothpaste that was "Made in China".
That stuff will kill you if you ingest it!
And, I wouldn't want to be doing 70 mph on one of their defective tires.


the antifreeze in the tooth paste REALLY POs me!

how can a supplier be so irresponsible?

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/24/2007 5:10:52 AM   
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This has nothing to do with the Chinese as a people...but everything about your bigotry; again. <shakes head>

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You cannot have both laws AGAINST Child Labor, and buy products from countries WITH Child Labor.

ALL imports of Chinese products MUST be banned until they abide by Human Rights, Labor, and Health and Safety regulations.



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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/24/2007 11:54:21 AM   
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This has nothing to do with the Chinese as a people...but everything about your bigotry; again. <shakes head>

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You cannot have both laws AGAINST Child Labor, and buy products from countries WITH Child Labor.

ALL imports of Chinese products MUST be banned until they abide by Human Rights, Labor, and Health and Safety regulations.




I wonder who I'm "bigoted" against this time?
I am bigoted against companies who close their plants in the U.S. but then still expect access to our markets.

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RE: Business Opportunity? - 8/24/2007 12:13:18 PM   
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Its all a mute point, guys.
Most kids buy Japanese video-games played on (mexican?) tv's, not chinese toys now. I consider myself an ambassidor from the years when Mario enthralled us, but wasn't quite good enough to replace the action figures and squirt guns.
And I dunno about you, but my go-cart/big-wheels experiences racing down the hill were some of the most suicidal things mankind has ever attempted-you know after a couple dozen runs, a plastic or old lawnmower wheel is going to go, and you race 'em anyways. We even put furnituture casters, CASTERS, on a plywood trailer behind the go-cart itself. it went so fast, once the leaves and then snow melted we gave it up because there was nothing even we considered safe enough to crash into.

My solution to poison toys and fat video game kids?

Make toys well. Really well. So well that their expensive, and americans can be supported making them. So fun that one sixty, hundred dollar toy can keep a kid occupied all year. Yeah, that'll happen.

Or just get every kid a lot of land/woods behind their house, a bike and a long length of hemp rope. they'll work the rest out. 

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