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RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 12:00:16 AM   
CuriousLord


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how many people out there only pursue one potential partner at a time?


Not I.

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Is it my obligation to ask if he's involving himself with anyone else?


Obligation?  No, but may be wise for your own benefit.

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or should he offer that information?


If it comes up, I suppose.  Many people just assume that's the way it goes until a couple decides to become exclusive.  If you're with a like-minded individual, then this may not be the case.

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Is it weird of me to not want to play with (or chat long term with) someone who is playing and chatting with multiple people?


Naw, that's normal when someone's looking at a commitment- even if it's a temporary commitment, pending a either a decision to split or a decision to commit to something more.

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Do you think that most men don't inform others about their multiple potential partners because they are trying to decieve, or because they know their chances are better with each individual woman if they don't mention the others?


I doubt there isn't so much a reason for what people do in situations like this so much as the absense of an acknowledged reason not to.  (This is to say, the person would normally enjoy spending time with another imtimately, so they do so.  Hoping for someone to be monogamous is not hoping for them to do something, but for them to not do something.  Since, until they have a reason to not do this, simply won't do it.)

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I feel like if that isn't information thats provided up front, then its like starting out with a lie...


Perhaps, because a monogamous approach may be the assumption for you, you perceive one, by entering what seems to be the openings of relationship, to be bound by it unless otherwise stated?


No, I don't think you're odd.  I suppose the advice I would offer is to avoid making the assumption that another is only after you.

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RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 3:15:37 AM   
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Im rather irrated by your assumption that men are diferent, you seem to think We al act the way you say. I was talking to one submissive and one submissive only, then she revealed (by accident, I think) that they wasn't just one Dom. in her life.

And now, I'm not talking to her or any other submissives. Because We men are not all the same.

*leaves the message board to get away from al the flak that's about tom come his way*.

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RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 3:29:44 AM   
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  • how many people out there only pursue one potential partner at a time?

    I do, but only after a certain timeframe and if there is meeting-potential, aka a promise to meet, then I could only concentrate on one/this one man. Only because he has absorbed enough time and energy that I tend to push others aside politely and notify them I MAY have a potential. Otherwise, when looking, I can look at and talk to 30 per day.

  • Is it my obligation to ask if he's involving himself with anyone else?

    No.  Why would you? If he implies within a reasonable timeframe that he is interested in you and ONLY you and he plans to meet you, one should hope this is obvious.  But, likelyhood of such? not very.

  • or should he offer that information? 

    see above. Yes, it should come out in conversation. 

  • Is it weird of me to not want to play with (or chat long term with) someone who is playing and chatting with multiple people?

    No, it is not weird (for me).  If someone is already playing with anyone, I see no use to continue conversation to begin with.  Chatting? sure, this can be used as a singles site, why can't he or I flirt, chat.

  • Do you think that most men don't inform others about their multiple potential partners because they are trying to decieve, or because they know their chances are better with each individual woman if they don't mention the others?

    They may or may not inform you.  I don't see it as any intentional decieving unless that person makes a promise that you are the only one. I should hope they have a wide scope of interesting people to talk to, even to compare me to. Nothing is a lie until a promise is given.  Then there are those that even continue to hunt AFTER such promises....if you find out, and do not like it, notify him and move on. 

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 4:33:49 AM   
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    A question for the op. What is a good looking girl??? 

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 5:02:01 AM   
    came4U


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    oh, silly, I think she meant someone yanno, like me.

    LMAO

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 8:06:27 AM   
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    quote:

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    My personal code of conduct when it comes to relationships... is that I only involve myself with one potential partner at a time.  I think I mentioned this in another thred somewhere, but I wanted to talk about it specifically. 

    Here's how I work.  I send one message to one person who sparks my interest... I most always get a reply of some kind... Until that vanishes... in whatever manner... I'm only talking to that person.

    I'm not out here to bait 20 men and then pick and choose.  I have higher standards than that... both for myself and for the men I speak with. 


    We all have a right to our own code of conduct when it comes to relationships.  My own code is pretty wide-open in comparison to most vanilla people in the area in which I live...my first submissive was married, her husband knew about me and knew me.  That in and of itself would get me fried by most of the people I know around here.  As for involving myself with more than one potential partner at a time, it depends on what you mean by involvement...if you mean just talking and sharing general interests and flirting, then I see no problem with talking to several.  If by involvement, you mean having met and making a decision to go further...playing, definite planning for another meeting, moving more into a D/s relationship, that is when you are talking "involvement" in my mind.  But meeting someone, deciding that you are great friends and can even enjoy playing with each other but are not going to make it as partners is, while more than friends, not exactly an involved, committed relationship either.{/quote] 

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    So here's the problem.  Men don't work the same way.  They have 4 or 5 (or more) women who they're speaking with as prospective partners... and that makes sense, I suppose, because the odds are better for them that way..


    Actually, it is not just a male thing, as evidenced by the responses of some of the women on this thread as well as some of the men.  I know that one woman I speak with...casually...is also speaking with several other dominants.  It doesn't bother me. 

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    But then isn't it his obligation to alert me to the fact that he's speaking with other women that he's interested in and wishes to potentially get involved with? Or maybe simply that I'm "one of many"?
      Unless you and he are moving towards something more serious, then no...he is not.  I suppose one could say that in the interest of all knowledge upfront being considered a good thing, he could volunteer it but he is under no obligation to do so.  If that is what you feel he should do, then make it your requirement but do not consider him to be "not as responsible" as you because he doesn't just feel this same way.{/quote]

    I put a lot of thought and consideration into who I contact, and I think (judging by some of the mail I've gotten) that men just send a message to every good looking girl in the state they live in.  Most of them even fail to notice whether I'm dominant or submissive...

    So, my questions are...
    • how many people out there only pursue one potential partner at a time?

    Some do, some don't.  It is up to each individual and they all have their reasons for doing so.  Whether they do so or not is their business, not yours unless  you are making it an obligation to only pursue you when they contact you.  If that is what you want, put it in your profile..."If you choose to contact me and you receive a letter back indicating that I have interest in you, at that time I expect you to stop pursuing anyone else until you or I decide we are done."

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    • Is it my obligation to ask if he's involving himself with anyone else?
      Only if you really wish to know.  Understand that you may have to decide what you consider involvement and then be able to explain that to him.  If he chooses not to answer, then you have your answer...of sorts.
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  • or should he offer that information? 
  •   If he chooses to, he can.  He is under no obligation to do so and, as previously noted, that does not make him a cad or a heel.
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  • Is it weird of me to not want to play with (or chat long term with) someone who is playing and chatting with multiple people?
  •   It doesn't make you weird, it just goes into making up the person you are.  I can understand the wanting to know whether or not he is playing elsewhere...after all, it is relevant in terms of physical safety and potentially, mental and emotional safety.  So, I would consider it important to know whether or not he had sex with 1 or 5 or 10 others in the last 2 months.  But chatting?  That has been discussed already.  I know that a lot of people see chatting in the same way as playing...my ex was one of those people that could not seem to understand that you could talk to another woman and not be "carrying on" with her and I have had girlfriends of the same bent.  I won't deal with that anymore.  The fact that another woman holds interest for me does not take away from my being interested in you nor even from commitment to you.  How I behave physically and mentally in regards to that interest does.
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  • Do you think that most men don't inform others about their multiple potential partners because they are trying to decieve, or because they know their chances are better with each individual woman if they don't mention the others?
  •   This question begs multiple answers.  Some men AND women do it because they are trying to deceive.  Some men AND women do it because they get a thrill out of having multiple partners on a string.  And some men AND women do it because they feel that they have a right to keep their field of availability as wide open as possible in order to have a better chance of meeting the right One (or more, tis true) for them than they would by going through the slow process of dealing with only one at a time.  Perhaps age has something to do with it...for many, it is easier to see things from a more romantic notion when you are younger...when you are older, you realize that time has become a factor.
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    I feel like if that isn't information thats provided up front, then its like starting out with a lie...

    While you have the right to feel that way, do not be surprised that there are others who do not.  For one thing, your mixing of casual chatting, long-term talking, and serious commitment makes it difficult to determine just whether or not you see any difference at all between them.  I am friends with my first submissive...I make that clear to everyone I have ever been involved with as well as the fact that she is now a femdominant.  That friendship leads us to communicate on a weekly basis.  Does that mean I cannot be interested elsewhere?  Does it mean that I should give up my friendship with her to pursue elsewhere?  And if that pursuit turns out to be a deadend?  Then, do I go back to my friend and tell her "O.K., we can talk again now...that went nowhere" ?  Sorry...I don't see it that way.

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 8:30:09 AM   
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    Until a pinned down and claimed, i am going to have fun with as many people as possable. Life is too short to wait for one person to figure out if i am right for them, and then them figure i'm not. That whole time i could have been meeting new people who also could be interested and interesting.

    We already know i am a whore. I guess this just prooves it. lmao

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 8:52:43 AM   
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    Until I'm actually in a training relationship with someone, I do not limit discussions or meetings with potentials. Rarely do things move beyond the first few emails though so it is a very rare thing for me to need to schedule two meetings with different people.

    I never train more than one person at a time without explicit consent from everyone involved and this only happened once. Anna was in the last month of her training and Fox was brand new plus Anna had not intention of staying in the household though we remained friends for a few years until we lost touch with each other.

    I only incorporate one person at a time into my poly household frankly because I believe it is a lot of work for everyone and best done one at a time.

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 9:07:59 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: satyrsnymph28


    • how many people out there only pursue one potential partner at a time?
    • i do.  If something looks promising, i tend to devote myself to getting to know that particular person better.  To me, it takes a lot of communication to get a good idea if that person might be compatible and i just don't really have a lot of time to "check out" other possibilities at the same time. 

     
    • Is it my obligation to ask if he's involving himself with anyone else?
    • or should he offer that information? 
    • i have learned to ask because i personally have found that most  do not offer that information.

     
    • Is it weird of me to not want to play with (or chat long term with) someone who is playing and chatting with multiple people?
    • i don't think so.  Some will say otherwise but i think it just is a matter of personal preference.  i don't think one is right or wrong...or better than the other....it just depends on each individual.

     
    • Do you think that most men don't inform others about their multiple potential partners because they are trying to decieve, or because they know their chances are better with each individual woman if they don't mention the others?
    • Hmmm....good question.  i think it can be either...some trying to deceive and others just trying to "keep their options open".  As one guy once said to me "i just don't want to put all my eggs in one basket".  Well, he could keep his eggs, and basket too!  lol

    I feel like if that isn't information thats provided up front, then its like starting out with a lie...

    Well this is why i always ask.  Some don't think to mention it, so i give them the benefit of the doubt.  It's the ones who lie AFTER i ask that i would have the problem with. 
     
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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 9:42:15 AM   
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    I never inform anyone of  who I am talking to. Talk is nothing, and often leads to nowhere. I inform my alpha slave only after I have actually met the person, and plan to see them again.

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 9:44:48 AM   
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    This whole concept, the when/where/why stuff totally eludes me. Reading this thread I still don't have any sort of answer lol but this is one of the major bits that keeps me out of  any sort of dating/meeting scene.

    I literally don't get it.. am I supposed to casually date a few guys at once? One?
    If I just involve myself with JoeyBlowy does that give him the impression that I'm fixated on him since I'm not bothering to see anyone else?
    What happens if I stay only with JB but I know he is going out next Friday and not with me?
    Arghhhhh!

    I have not ever dated. Never did the dating thing in school or college. Not real dating, back then it was pretty casual sex with nothing else expected.

    Now I'm getting *older*, I'm been divorced for 2 years 3 weeks and haven't set foot in a bar or anything like that.

    I guess I don't have a question or an answer. Was just hoping someone here had all the answers LOL.

    *rant over, if it was a rant. which i'm not sure of.*

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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 9:56:56 AM   
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    Its important to me to know how many people someone is chatting with at any given time because I don't want to develop feelings beyond friendship for that person if I'm one of 6... or however many. 

    I prefer to do the "one at a time" thing on both sides because I want to be able to develop feelings for that person, )and them for me in return if thats where things go) without having partially already emotionally invested myself and then finding out that they're playing with (and sleeping with potentially) a different person every night... or something. 

    To answer the question... the definition of a good looking girl is specifically dependant on what each individual is into. 

    I know that its not just men who do this, but since I don't pursue women very frequently, its more relevant to me if I pose the question in the direct situation that it relates to for me. 

    When I say that I'm only talking to one person at a time, it doesn't mean that I'm not sending messages to others.  It means that as far as potential partners go, theres only ever one at a time. 



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    RE: Involvement - 8/22/2007 10:19:07 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: satyrsnymph28
    I know that its not just men who do this, but since I don't pursue women very frequently, its more relevant to me if I pose the question in the direct situation that it relates to for me. 

    That would have been fine.  But you actually said "Men don't work the same way" which sounds pretty final and universal to me.  As well, you said this in contrast to yourself, to suggest that the way you work is the way that all women work.

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