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Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in church - 8/20/2007 9:19:09 AM   
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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- An illegal immigrant who stayed in an Illinois church for a year to avoid separation from her 8-year-old son, a U.S. citizen, was arrested Sunday and was being processed for deportation.

Elvira Arellano, who arrived in Los Angeles on Saturday after leaving her sanctuary to campaign for immigration reform, was arrested around 1:30 p.m. outside Our Lady Queen of Angels Catholic Church where she had been speaking to reporters, said the Rev. Walter Coleman, pastor of Adalberto United Methodist, the Chicago, Illinois, church.

Arellano was "being processed for removal to Mexico based upon a deportation order originally issued by a federal immigration judge in 1997," U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a news release.

Immigration activists promised protests and vigils to support her.

"We are sad, but at the same time we are angry," said Javier Rodriguez, a Chicago immigration activist who worked with her. "How dare they arrest this woman?"

Anti-illegal immigrant groups said the arrest was long overdue.

"Just because the woman has gone public and made an issue of the fact that she is defying law doesn't mean the government doesn't have to do its job," said Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which favors limits on immigration.

Arellano, 32, has become a symbol of the struggles of illegal immigrant parents and a source of controversy. She had said Saturday she was not afraid of being taken into custody by immigration agents.

"From the time I took sanctuary the possibility has existed that they arrest me in the place and time they want," she said in Spanish. "I only have two choices. I either go to my country, Mexico, or stay and keep fighting. I decided to stay and fight."

At an afternoon news conference in Los Angeles, Arellano's son, Saul, hid behind Coleman's wife, Emma Lozano, and wiped away tears. Lozano said she is the boy's legal guardian.

"He's taking it better than we thought he would," said Lozano, the head of an immigration rights group in Chicago.

Arellano came to Washington state illegally in 1997. She was deported to Mexico shortly after, but returned and moved to Illinois in 2000, taking a job cleaning planes at O'Hare International Airport.

She was arrested in 2002 at O'Hare and convicted of working under a false Social Security number. She was to surrender to authorities last August.

She sought refuge at the storefront church on Chicago's West Side August 15, 2006. She had not left the church property until deciding to be driven to Los Angeles, Coleman said.

As news of her arrest spread Sunday, members of the Chicago church began arriving to pray.

"People will be sad about what happened to Elvira," said Catherine Archibald, a member of the congregation and a friend of Elvira's. "But I think it is very important now that we mobilize and push even harder."
 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/19/immigration.activist.ap/index.html
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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 11:52:56 AM   
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the law is the law ...i have no sympathy about the issue though i'm a mother of 2


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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 12:12:36 PM   
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Count me on the side of the law...if being in the U.S. is so very important to you, then work to get here legally.  Mexico is not a nest of political oppression.  It is, however, not much in terms of a welfare state...whereas the U.S. is an almost endless source of welfare in many forms.

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 12:28:28 PM   
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I have no sympathy for her.  Does anyone else feel it would be a slap in the face to all those who worked so hard to come here legally, if she were allowed to stay here, just because she broke our laws to come here?  

Her argument about wanting to stay here to keep from being separated from her son is rediculous.  No one, as far as I can tell from the reports I have read, has ever asked her to leave her son behind.   She has been more than welcomed to take him home with her.  If she leaves him behind, it is her choice.  Her argument to this end is just misguided self righteousness on her part, designed to play on the sympathies of parents.  It is not working on me. 

As far as I know, Mexico is not a place filled with political persecution, nor as far as I know, is it a place where those who work hard, are prohibited from becoming all they can be.  If this woman wants to work to better living conditions for her son & other Mexican people, she could & should do it within her own country.

Barring that, work to come here legally, just like my cousin & his wife did, to bring his wife here.  It took a couple years, after they were married, but I am sure either one of them would tell anyone who asked, it was well worth it. 

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 12:45:46 PM   
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They said on the news that this woman was already deported once and sneaked back in.
And she stole someone's identity to get a job at O'Hare airport washing planes, another felony.
Funny how many crimes they commit and people "feel sorry" for them?

That's funny; "illegal immigrant activist."
Yeah, she was pretty "active" wasn't she?
I wonder if there's a group for theives and burglers; "Lefty shylock, a burgler and second story man activist...."

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 2:30:34 PM   
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What part of illegal do people NOT understand? 
 
Let me put it in simple terms:
 
What if I moved into their house- uninvited and unprepared with no real skills to offer and unwilling to speak their language; ate their food, wore their clothes, drove their car, used their health insurance that they paid for and used  their checking account.  I wonder how would they feel?   

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 3:39:18 PM   
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It's the elitists plan to establish the NAU by linking Canada, US, and Mexico. The corporations and elitists want to move goods and people across the borders without restriction and eventually establish a common currency.

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 4:45:17 PM   
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"Illegal immigrant activist"
 
Interesting term, used similarly if stopped for speeding would I be a "speed activist"? How about bank robber being called "Cash Activist". The PC term for murders would be "Death Activists"?

The headline should have read simply - "Criminal Caught & Deported"

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/20/2007 5:54:33 PM   
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Personally, I think the citzens of Mexico should form a posse, and arrest the President and all of the drug lords in Mexico, and deport them to some place like Pakistan. Then elect somebody who actually will work harder to make Mexico a place its citizens want to stay, not flee.

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/21/2007 7:00:39 PM   
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Personally, I think the citizens of the US should form a posse, and arrest the President and all the politicians who refuse to protect our borders. Then we should elect Ron Paul and see how far the illegals get.

A few years ago, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila was confronted by border patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. He was here illegally on business. The business was to deliver 743 pounds of pot. Aldrete-Davila did not want to surrender, and they shot him in the ass. For doing their job, they are doing ten years in prison, and the illegal was given money, a travel pass (whatever that is) and immunity from prosecution.

There is now a congressional probe into this, but not before one of those agents was badly beaten in prison. I thought they didn't put LEOs in general population. Sounds like something from the movie "Tango and Cash".

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) said " This is the worst miscarriage of justice I've witnessed in the 30 years I have been in Washington".

In some cases they make border patrol agents go out in the field unarmed also. Talk about a thankless job, and guess who made it that way.

I don't know why in certain countries they don't fucking get it. If things are that bad STOP FUCKING.

Incidentally, I do agree that Mexicans should fight their problems at home, however, any anti-government action would invoke the help of the US military to "keep order". If they had order, they wouldn't be coming here.

The problem is that governments get too powerful, they crave power, and what made Mexico a good place to be from is happening here.

Let them come, and we will flee. The productive intelligent species that is supposed to own this country. The people who built Europe and most of the good things in the world are not fooled easily. Yes, I must admit that my ancestors abandoned their country of origin. We know what is going on, and the Europeans who fled Europe for the US knew what they were doing. There, they faced insurmountable odds, and folks, that shit is coming here.

Over population is the main problem, the world can't feed the people, but they won't stop fucking. What about China ? They probably MAKE the condoms we buy here, yet they never fucking heard of them or what ? Don't they get the idea there are too fucking many people ?

And then take a look at the European countries offering incentives to couple to have more children. Their population dwindles, and they have a very high standard of living. People do not have nine kids, and they have time to teach the kids.

Other people fuck and make a bunch of kids and then look for a government check every month. My ancestors came here because they couldn't quite get things done in their country of origin. So they came here, learned the language, used their SKILLS to get good jobs and supported their families, and heaven forbid, paid taxes. Never asked for a dime from anyone.

And Mexicans want to come here and live in squalor, in slums, just what the fuck did they leave ? Things don't get bad as that on their own unless there is a drought or something. The people did part of it. Yes the same big money that fucked Mexico all up is here doing the same thing. How long until intelligent, hard working US citizens decide they have had enough.

If you think for a minute that this government would not put a wall up to keep the people in, think again. In fact, I am still perplexed by something about Mexico. I mean I am an intelligent Man, perhaps too much so at times. I have studied the issue and everything and usually have some sort of opinion, but this particular issue eludes my thought process. Why doesn't Mexico stop people from leaving ? Don't the bean counters figure per capita ? They do here.

Perhaps we have been misled. The great wall of China, Kennedy up there "We don't have to put up a wall to keep our people in", perhaps it was really to keep people out. I would think an overpopulated nation would say "GO, by all means, going to ______, we'll give you some free language classes, as long as you do actually promise to go. GET OUT !

See I am a logical thinker, and I see that sometimes you can figure out motives by actions. The way I see it there is only one logical possibility. That is that all the elite and politicians are in cahoots, and their goal is to lower the standard of living everywhere. Nothing else makes any sense.

Of course not all of them. If Chavez-Frias is such a terrible dictator, why don't we have Venezuelan escapees on those floats, boats or whatever ? Why don't they yearn for our freedom and democracy, which is supposed to be a republic ? Why Mexicans. It makes no sense otherwise, our government supports their government. Why would US leaders want to propogate the situation ?

There is only one answer. My answer might be right, might be wrong.

Also, remember the acronym ZPG ? It stands for Zero Population Growth. Whatever happened to that ? It seems twenty years ago people realized that we cannot afford more people. It decreases quality of life for all. And yet no mention is made of birth control anymore.

I smell an agenda. Now with thinking caps on, what might that agenda be ? I keep coming up with the same answer, and nobody has disproved it. The elite want to take more of our wealth, and we can't really do shit about it.

Think about it.

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/21/2007 7:45:39 PM   
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The president of Microsoft, Steve Ballmer, has said that if Americans were not making so much money that there would not be a need for illegal immigrants to fill jobs. In other words, he thinks Americans make too much money. And in order for corporations to thrive, they need to go outside the borders to find workers that will work at "affordable wages."

Corporations like Microsoft, retail giants like Wal-Mart, and the entire agriculture industry were the ones lobbying the hardest for "Comprehensive Immigration Reform." They want to flood the job market. That way they will be able to lower wages and inflate profits since it will be easier to fill jobs at "affordable wages."

Right now Americans demand high wages and lots of benefits. Corporations are not wanting to provide that. They are only doing so right now because they have to in order to compete with competitors to fill jobs that are in high demand. Obviously, how do you lower demand? By flooding supply. Immigrants work for peanuts. They will work 16 hour days for $5 an hour under the table, and without benefits. Corporations interpret this as increased production, lower labor costs, and increased profits. And that is what sells the stocks. True, quality and customer service goes into the toilet...but most companies don't care about that anymore. Does Wal-Mart care if you buy a toy painted with lead paint? Heck no. All they care about is getting you in the door, take your money, and getting you out.

Unfortunately Americans won't realize what is happening until their own jobs are compromised by some immigrant willing to work twice as much for half your salary. Don't think that can happen? It's happening right now. I've seen it happen. Circuit City just replaced all their high-paid workers with lower-paid workers.

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/21/2007 8:05:21 PM   
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Well I'd like to see a story where they interview the person whose identity she stole.  I'd be interested in knowing what kind of income that person makes, and what difficulties they have had to endure from having their identity stolen from them.  I am so sick of criminals being turned into victims, and real victims being completely ignored. 

This woman is a felon, and she should never be allowed to immigrate here.  She forfeited that right when she broke the law.   

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RE: Illegal immigrant activist arrested after year in c... - 8/21/2007 8:19:16 PM   
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Now she is going to have to go down there and be the next new star at the local donkey show.

I wish you people would show more compassion about this poor criminals situation

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