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windchymes -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/20/2007 7:03:05 PM)

Michael, I don't know which anti-depressants you take, but increased thoughts of suicide can be a side effect of some of them.  You should check that out with your doctor.




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/21/2007 3:30:20 PM)

I've stopped taking them due to their ineffectiveness. like I said, I develop immunities to drugs after constant use of them in a 3 month period of time.




Rule -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/21/2007 4:54:17 PM)

It may be that it is your liver that is rising to the challenge of detoxifying your medications and succeeding within three months. I am guessing here. Consult your physician. Perhaps it will not happen if you use them intermittently and infrequently. Perhaps it will not happen if you use a lower dose intermittently, or a cocktail of low dose meds. Ask your physician.
 
As I said before: I suspect that depression is inherent to your sub nature. Have you ever been depressed for an extended period, like years, without using medication?




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/22/2007 7:13:33 PM)

i've had to cope with depression most of my life. as for liver damage, the last time the Dr did a run on my blood and other fluids, C.A.T. scans, MRIs and other tests, there was never any mention of any liver problems.




AAkasha -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/22/2007 7:30:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

It may be that it is your liver that is rising to the challenge of detoxifying your medications and succeeding within three months. I am guessing here. Consult your physician. Perhaps it will not happen if you use them intermittently and infrequently. Perhaps it will not happen if you use a lower dose intermittently, or a cocktail of low dose meds. Ask your physician.
 
As I said before: I suspect that depression is inherent to your sub nature. Have you ever been depressed for an extended period, like years, without using medication?


The OP has a track record for discounting all advice, not wanting to try anything, and stating blatantly that he's beyond help from doctors or psychologists or anyone.  I would not be surprised if the reason his meds have not worked is that he did not take them as prescribed or gave up on them too soon, instead of putting more effort into it.  Initiative seems to be what lacks.

Akasha




MzMia -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/22/2007 8:04:29 PM)

It takes a lot of heart to share so openly here.
{{{{{michael}}}}
 
WOW, thank you for having the guts to share this personal information with us.
My heart goes out to you, and damn it I feel like crying.
Hang in there Michael, you know there are many websites on here that are free that
deal with depression, mental health issues, etc.
I can send you the links on the other side if you would like.
Okay, I see you are taking a break from the anti-depressants, does that mean you
can't take something else?
Maybe some sort of anti-anxiety medication?

Have you tried any natural or holistic therapies?
Something with a spirtual component like yogo or meditation?
Are you a member of any of the many online support groups?

From what you have shared with us, it sounds like your soul is hurting and this is
spiritual in nature.

michael, you are a sweet young man with a great big heart.
I hope and pray you find the peace that you need and deserve.
Plus, you know you have a big fan base here!!! [;)]


*For those of you that feel the need to make nasty or snide remarks about this thread,
please spare us if possible.
michael is a member here and he has a right to share his feelings.
If you don't like it or him, tough chit.
Most of us are going to be depressed at some time in our lives, it is part of life and I am
glad michael feels he can share this with his collarme family.
I have been here long enough to know he has talked about it before, again so what?
If he wants to talk about it every damn day he can, and you do not have to read it.

 
Big cyber hugs michael.




Rule -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 2:05:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia
i've had to cope with depression most of my life.

You did not answer my question. Did you do without medication for an extended time of years while being depressed?
 
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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia
as for liver damage

Who mentioned liver damage? Not me. What I said implies that your liver functions properly.
The main function of the liver is as a huge detoxifying factory. All kinds of toxins are part of the diet that we consume - alcohol being one example. It is the main function of the liver to render these toxins harmless. It is well known that alcoholics have enlarged livers. That is because they consume more alcohol than a normal liver can cope with, so the liver starts to grow to better deal with the alcohol poisoning. When enlarged the liver succeeds in rendering most of the alcohol harmless and the alcoholic does not become drunk any more. Consequently to become drunk alcoholics have to consume more alcohol than before. This causes the liver to grow again. It is a positive feedback cycle, reinforcing itself. See?
 
Now most medications - presumably the ones that you have used against depression also - are toxins. When it cannot cope with them we may expect that the liver or rather the specifically concerned cells in the liver will respond similarly to what the liver does when it cannot cope with huge amounts of alcohol: grow until it is able to render harmless that specific toxin. In your case that appears to take three months. As a result after three months your medication no longer is effective.
 
So what you want to avoid is exposing your liver to continues high doses of medication, for that will stimulate the detoxifying liver cells to multiply. Hypothetically there is perchance a slim possibility that the liver cells will not respond by multiplying when you are on low doses of medications or when you use these medications infrequently. That is what you should discuss with your physician.
 
You are far away and I know personally only one other person, whom I have deduced is a sub, that has episodes of severe, suicidal depression. So all I have to work with is a theoretical model with little pertinent evidence to support it. I do know, though, that it is possible to function without a soul - having experienced it myself. My inclination, based on this model, is to advise you to do without medication. Accept that being without a soul is your natural condition.
 
Your best medication is a truly dominant Mistress (or Master; it can be a nonsexual Master-sub relation), for she has soul to spare.
 
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
The OP has a track record for discounting all advice, not wanting to try anything,

I know. I have been reading his posts for a long time.
 
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
stating blatantly that he's beyond help from doctors or psychologists or anyone.

He is probably right, for they have no conceptual insight into his sub nature and will view and treat his depression as a disease, whereas in his case it is not.
 
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
I would not be surprised if the reason his meds have not worked is that he did not take them as prescribed or gave up on them too soon, instead of putting more effort into it.

He is a sub. He will do as he is told. Also he has motivation.
 
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Initiative seems to be what lacks.

That is inherent to depression and to being a sub. A Mistress will supply him with initiative. I think that a good sub is going to waste here, merely because his depression is seen by him - and hence by a prospective Mistress - as a disadvantage, whereas in my eyes it qualifies him as the real thing.




KatyLied -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 4:58:58 AM)

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Initiative seems to be what lacks.

That is inherent to depression and to being a sub.


Do you actually believe that subs lack initiative?  Or are you speaking specifically about the OP?





SusanofO -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 5:12:31 AM)

Please don't do anything destructive to yourself. You might not think so right now, but the world needs you - if it did not, you would not be here. Okay?[:)]

- Susan 




Rule -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 5:40:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
Do you actually believe that subs lack initiative?  Or are you speaking specifically about the OP?

Appearances may deceive. The Law of Murphy often applies to human perceptions. In my hypothetical model people that have a tiny soul may exhibit superhuman soul abilities - like initiative - not despite having such a small soul, but because of it. In the case of the OP his soul appears to be so tiny that it frequently, spontaneously blinks out. Hence no initiative. It is a natural condition. I do not know sufficiently about subs to definitely say that it is the preferable condition for them, but I suspect that it is.
 
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
You might not think so right now, but the world needs you - if it did not, you would not be here. Okay?[:)]

Quite. You were born for a purpose, MoG. This purpose necessitates you to be a sub, to even be without soul. You have functions to perform and being who you are you have been equiped to perform them better than any other human being. Find a Mistress able to recognize your potential and to take charge and she will make sure that you perform the great tasks that you are capable of. Your depression is not a disadvantage.




mistoferin -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:00:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
Do you actually believe that subs lack initiative?  Or are you speaking specifically about the OP?

Appearances may deceive. The Law of Murphy often applies to human perceptions. In my hypothetical model people that have a tiny soul may exhibit superhuman soul abilities - like initiative - not despite having such a small soul, but because of it. In the case of the OP his soul appears to be so tiny that it frequently, spontaneously blinks out. Hence no initiative. It is a natural condition. I do not know sufficiently about subs to definitely say that it is the preferable condition for them, but I suspect that it is.


What a load of horse puckey! Subs prefer to lack initiative? Small souls? Puh....lease!

The OP certainly is not short on initiative when it comes to starting threads to get attention and sympathy....or when it comes to making excuses about why he is unable to do ANYTHING to make his life better.




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:04:56 AM)

for the record...I placed this thread up ONLY to let others know how I am doing. I also stated I did not want or need input. it's others that let this thing go as far as it is. if I had a way of doing it, I personally would pull this thread and let others go on with their lives. so don't go blaming me for what others put here. I DON'T CARE.




mnottertail -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:06:19 AM)

don't sweat it mike, this thread is not about you from its inception, you are an accident of history insofar as the thread goes.

Ron




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:09:14 AM)

you know, you may be right. it doesn't matter what I post, there are those vultures out there waiting to jump on me regardless, just to make themselves seem more impotant than they really are. but, I guess, if it wasn't me they were jumping on, they'd find someone else to beat up and belittle. must make them proud to tear up other people in this manner.




mistoferin -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:15:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

you know, you may be right. it doesn't matter what I post, there are those vultures out there waiting to jump on me regardless, just to make themselves seem more impotant than they really are. but, I guess, if it wasn't me they were jumping on, they'd find someone else to beat up and belittle. must make them proud to tear up other people in this manner.


Well at least you're consistent and nothing's changed....once again you are the victim of your own thread. My advice to you is that you should go back and read every single thread you have ever posted under all of your different names and re-read all of the heartfelt and good advice that I and others have put a lot of time and thought into. You should also take notice as to how you have struck down every single suggestion that anyone has ever made. People get tired Mike, of putting time and effort into someone who doesn't really want to do anything to help themself.




Rule -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:15:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
What a load of horse puckey! Subs prefer to lack initiative? Small souls? Puh....lease!

Methinks that you are a victim of the Law of Murphy.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
The OP certainly is not short on initiative when it comes to starting threads to get attention and sympathy....or when it comes to making excuses about why he is unable to do ANYTHING to make his life better.

He perceives a problem. I do not think that he is looking for attention and sympathy, but that he is looking for a solution. However, if it is a natural condition, then the problem does not exist. It is like a giraffe complaining about the length of his neck because he cannot move below the branches of a tree like all the other animals. The life of the OP will improve as soon as he acquires a Mistress.




KatyLied -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:32:11 AM)

I agree with Erin, on all counts.




pahunkboy -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 6:39:07 AM)

Mike, I too am under treatment for major depression.  I hear you!

It sounds like you are doing better then most. I know 3 guys who are being evicted right now. Dont worry about broken down trailor. Just clean it up nice- abit of baking soda and cleaning supplies can make a place nice!   During a very dark hour I kept repeating to myself- what my psychiatrist said to me- that I needed a roof over my head.

You will do well- being honest with yourself will do wonders. I congratuatlate you on that!

Todays anti depressents are more evolved then those of the past.

It takes 3-6 weeks for them to work. once you find one that works keep on it.

We need you here on the board. If you need to talk- I can give you my number or call you in the USA.  [but] I do have black outs so it may not be right away.   I have spoke with a number of members of the board - so I am ok with it. Im not one to cause trouble.

Any how chin up always!  Each day is a new opportunity to discover the wonders of life!

Hugs from a depression patient in PA.

roger




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 9:01:14 AM)

as I said several times in this thread...I'm NOT asking for advice...I don't care. I put this up here strickly as a way to update people on how I'm doing. what part of that do YOU not understand.

<now, back to the purpose of this thread...TO INFORM>

In keeping with the spirit of this thread, I would like to let everyone know that I have managed to refigure my finances and found that I have enough money to spare to take a correspondence course. I signed up for PC Repair. this way, I can work my own hours, undercut others (especially the Geek Squad), do free evailuations on people's PC's and make money "at home"




pahunkboy -> RE: My Wellness as of late (8/23/2007 9:06:04 AM)

to the person that claimed someone was posting under multiple names... be careful with this type of assessment. IMO you are incorrect.   When someone cries out for help- why be vicious? as thats how the context appears. ?????




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