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By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War - 8/13/2007 10:32:42 AM   
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(Victor Ostrovsky is a former Mossad agent)

{Victor Ostrovsky's Foreword}  

{p. vii} REVEALING THE FACTS as I know them from my vantage point of four years spent inside the Mossad was by no means an easy task.

Coming from an ardent Zionist background, I had been taught that the state of Israel was incapable of misconduct. That we were the David in the unending struggle against the ever-growing Goliath. That there was no one out there to protect us but ourselves - a feeling reinforced by the Holocaust survivors who lived among us.

We, the new generation of Israelites, the resurrected nation on its own land after more than two thousand years of exile, were entrusted with the fate of the nation as a whole.

The commanders of our army were called champions, not generals. Our leaders were captains at the helm of a great ship. I was elated when I was chosen and granted the privilege to join what I considered to be the elite team of the Mossad.

But it was the twisted ideals and self-centered pragmatism that I encountered inside the Mossad, coupled with this so-called team's greed, lust, and total lack of respect for human life, that motivated me to tell this story.

It is out of love for Israel as a free and just country that I am laying my life on the line by so doing, facing up to those who took it upon themselves to turn the Zionist dream into the present-day nightmare.

{p. viii} The Mossad, being the intelligence body entrusted with the responsibility of plotting the course for the leaders at the helm of the nation, has betrayed that trust. Plotting on its own behalf, and for petty, self-serving reasons, it has set the nation on a collision course with all-out war.

{Claire Hoy's Foreword}

{p. ix} One of the main themes of this book is Victor's belief that Mossad is out of control, that even the prime minister, although ostensibly in charge, has no real authority over its actions ...

{p. xi} The Mossad - believe it or not - has just 30 to 35 case officers, or katsas, operating in the world at any one time. The main reason for this extraordinary low total, as you will read in this book, is that unlike other countries, Israel can tap the significant and loyal cadre of the worldwide Jewish community outside Israel. This is done through a unique system of sayanim, volunteer Jewish helpers.

{Jointly written text - remainder of book}

{p. 52} My first six weeks were uneventful. I worked at the downtown office, essentially as a gofer and filing clerk. But one chilly day in February 1984, I found myself joining 14 others on a small bus. ... This course was to be known as Cadet 16, as it was the sixteenth course of Mossad cadets.

{p. 53} He walked briskly to the head of the table while the other two sat at the back of the room. "My name is Aharon Sherf," he said. "I am the head of the Academy. Welcome to the Mossad. Its full name is Ha Mossad, le Modiyn ve le Tafkidim Mayuhadim [the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations]. Our motto is: 'By way of deception, thou shalt do war.'

{p. 86} The next day Ran S. delivered a lecture on the sayanim, a unique and important part of the Mossad's operation. Sayanim  -  assistants - must be 100 percent Jewish. They live abroad, and though they are not Israeli citizens, many are reached through their relatives in Israel. An Israeli with a relative in England, for example, might be asked to write a letter saying the person bearing the letter represents an organization whose main goal is to help save Jewish people in the diaspora. Could the British relative help in any way?

There are thousands of sayanim around the world. In London alone, there are about 2,000 who are active, and another 5,000 on the list. They fulfill many different roles. A car sayan, for example, running a rental agency, could help the Mossad rent a car without having to complete the usual doc-

{p. 87} umentation. An apartment sayan would find accommodation without raising suspicions, a bank sayan could get you money if you needed it in the middle of the night, a doctor sayan would treat a bullet wound without reporting it to the police, and so on. The idea is to have a pool of people available when needed who can provide services but will keep quiet about them out of loyalty to the cause. They are paid only costs. Often the loyalty of sayanim is abused by katsas who take advantage of the available help for their own personal use. There is no way for the sayan to check this.

One thing you know for sure is that even if a Jewish person knows it is the Mossad, he might not agree to work with you - but he won't turn you in. You have at your disposal a nonrisk recruitment system that actually gives you a pool of millions of Jewish people to tap from outside your own borders. It's much easier to operate with what is available on the spot, and sayanim offer incredible practical support everywhere. But they are never put at risk - nor are they privy to classified information.

Suppose during an operation a katsa suddenly had to come up with an electronics store as a cover. A call to a sayan in that business could bring 50 television sets, 200 VCRs - whatever was needed - from his warehouse to your building, and in next to no time, you'd have a store with $3 or $4 million worth of stock in it.

Since most Mossad activity is in Europe, it may be preferable to have a business address in North America. So, there are address sayanim and telephone sayanim. If a katsa has to give out an address or a phone number, he can use the sayan's. And if the sayan gets a letter or a phone call, he will know immediately how to proceed. Some business sayanim have a bank of 20 operators answering phones, typing letters, faxing messages, all a front for the Mossad. The joke is that 60 percent of the business of those telephone answering companies in Europe comes from the Mossad. They'd fold otherwise.

The one problem with the system is that the Mossad does not seem to care how devastating it could be to the status of the Jewish people

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A Shocking Stranglehold


It was only in the days following that revealing interview that incredulity replaced my satisfaction. I realized that what I had thought to be an Israeli influence on American and Canadian media through the Jewish community in the United States and Canada was in fact a stranglehold. Many thousands of people must have heard for themselves Lapid's call to "any decent Jew in Canada" to assassinate me on behalf of the state of Israel. But the subsequent refusal of the North American media to report the appeal, much less condemn or even discuss it, was more shocking and far more frightening to me than the call itself. I then realized that the occupation of the North American media is complete. In subjects dealing with the Middle East in general and Israel in particular, there no longer is a free press. Had this call for assassination been made by a Muslim, that same media would have been all over it, first reporting the story and then keeping it alive by themselves, or provoking responses from Muslim leaders the world over. And should such respondents not be unequivocal in their opposition to such a call, they would instantly have been branded terrorists and, needless to say, "anti-Semitic." I had always known there was a double standard when it came to dealing with subjects that were dear to the Jewish community. I had not known, however, how hypocritical that community and the media that lie at its feet can be. I had known for some time that this community has all but taken over the film industry and has a strong grip on Washington, having the strongest lobby there. Now, through intimidation and double dealing, it obviously has taken over large portions of the media. To all those who knew this all along, and were silent, and to those who remain silent now - shame on you. Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad case officer, is the author of two exposes of Israeli covert action, By Way of Deception, published in 1990, and The Other Side of Deception, published in 1994. The former is available from the AET Book Club for $5 and the latter is available from AET for $18.

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RE: By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War - 8/13/2007 11:14:02 AM   
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As long as I am on the subject how do people who wish to remain "politically" correct discuss this subject?

Here is an interesting take on differences:

Third-Category Jews and the
Palestinian Solidarity Movement
By Gilad Atzmon
30 June 2005

As far as self-perception is concerned, those who call themselves Jews can be divided into three main categories:

1. Those who follow Judaism.

2. Those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin.

3. Those who put their Jewishness over and above all of their other traits.

Obviously, the first two categories specify a harmless group of people. We do tend to respect religious people, as they are generally expected to be living inspired by their beliefs and are expected to abide by some sort of a higher spiritual code. Needless to say, we have no problem with the second category as well. One cannot choose one's origin. We agree that people must be respected and treated equally regardless of their origin or their racial and ethnic belonging.

However the third category is largely problematic. Clearly, its definition may sound inflammatory to some. And yet, bizarrely enough, it is a general formulation of Chaim Weizmann's view of the Jewish identity as expressed in his famous address at the First Jewish Congress: "There are no English, French, German or American Jews, but only Jews living in England, France, Germany or America."[1]

According to Weizmann, a prominent Zionist figure, Jewishness is a primary quality. You may be a Jew who dwells in England, a Jew who plays the violin or even a Jew against Zionism. But above all else you are a Jew. And this is exactly the idea conveyed by the third category. It is all about viewing Jewishness as the key element in one's being. Any other quality is secondary.

This is exactly the message the early Zionists were interested in promulgating. For Weizmann, Jewishness is a unique quality that stops the Jew from assimilating within the nation he is a citizen of. He will always remain an alien. This very line of thinking was more than apparent in most early Zionist writings. Jabotinsky, the founder of right wing Zionism, takes it even further. He is more than firm that assimilation is impossible due to some biological conditioning. Here is what he had to say about the German Jew:

  A Jew brought up among Germans may assume German customs, German words. He may be wholly imbued with that German fluid but the nucleus of his spiritual structure will always remain Jewish, because his blood, his body, his physical racial type are Jewish. — Vladimir Jabotinsky, 'A Letter on Autonomy', 1904

The reader may notice that these outrageous racist ideas predate Nazism. Jabotinsky wasn't alone, even the Marxist Ber Borochov, who refers the Jewish condition to some historical and material circumstances, is suggesting a remedy that is particular to Jewish people, i.e., Jewish Nationalism in which Jews will practice some proletarian activity, namely production. As it seems, Borochov lets Jews be separated from the international proletarian revolution. Why does he do this? Just because Jews are uniquely Jewish or at least the Zionists tend to believe they are.

However, one may rightly ask whether it was the Zionists who invented this third category?

In fact, it is not that way at all.

Seemingly, Shakespeare had noticed this very pattern three hundred years earlier. Shylock, the famous money lender from Venice was a proper third-category Jew. He clearly admits

Third-Category Jews and the Palestinian Solidarity Movement


Mossad Local Assistants or Sayanim










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RE: By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War - 8/13/2007 6:02:18 PM   
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very interesting.

i'm reading the article now. i have a feeling this is going to open a whole can of worms..

then again odds are absolutely no one will read it and just arguing based on the fact that  words like jewish or zionist is use.

lol nice way to try to stave off the inevitable politically correct faux pas. by clearing it all up before discussion begins- good lookin out.

i wish people would stay on topic and let the facts speak for themselves rather than going off emotion or responding to a 20 page thread without either following from the first page or taking the time to read before responding.

that's how the topics get derailed.

i'll post a response after i finish reading the full article.. i'm sure i'll have questions.





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RE: By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War - 8/13/2007 10:35:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

very interesting.

i'm reading the article now. i have a feeling this is going to open a whole can of worms..

then again odds are absolutely no one will read it and just arguing based on the fact that  words like jewish or zionist is use.

lol nice way to try to stave off the inevitable politically correct faux pas. by clearing it all up before discussion begins- good lookin out.

i wish people would stay on topic and let the facts speak for themselves rather than going off emotion or responding to a 20 page thread without either following from the first page or taking the time to read before responding.

that's how the topics get derailed.

i'll post a response after i finish reading the full article.. i'm sure i'll have questions.







Well my attention was turned to this when i was accused of being a racist in an emotion burst.   So I decided to look into it a bit and see why things were so sensitive.

Look at the massacre going on in iraq right now, we should be well over a million.   Oh its not being done with gas, but its being done for gas.

I think this is the key to shutting down the emotional outbursts of racism every time the "J" word is mentioned.

People typically do not differentiate and as a matter of identifying some one or a group just sum it up and say the jews did it. (or whatever)

Regardless if they did or not some one is going to pop a lid and interpret that as "all" jews regardless of how it is stated rather than point it out that people should be referring to a specific group of jews who engage in specific activites.

So the jewish community is equally to blame for the misidentity as far as I am concerned for not explaining this to people and educating tham about sayanimism.

There are rogue groups in any country.  KKK for example.  So I think the proper identity or label to put on these people is simply to say sayanimist jews.  Like the KKK specifies one specific group of americans that are up to basically no good, I think it is fair to say that the sayinmist jews are up to no good.

If its fair to call one a racist for that statement then its fair to call one a racist for the statement about the KKK as well.




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RE: By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War - 8/14/2007 3:58:50 AM   
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You are opening a can of worms here. I suppose there is a feeling in many countries that Jewish people will never be totally loyal citizens because of their loyalties to their historical culture and home land. Whether that is true you have to make your own mind up, they are not the only people in the modern world with mixed loyalties but people tread warily on this subject because of the holocaust and a collective guilt felt by the western intelligensia. Even when a British Jewish civil servant sold nuclear equipement without authorisation to Israel he was not accused of treachery because such sensitivities. Anyone else would have spent 20 year in prison. The mind boggles.

Though it seems to me that Jewishness is a cultural identity not a racial identity. You just have to take a trip to Israel, you will see fair skinned blond jews, right through to what appears to be sub-Saharan African Jews.

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RE: By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War - 8/15/2007 7:54:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

You are opening a can of worms here. I suppose there is a feeling in many countries that Jewish people will never be totally loyal citizens because of their loyalties to their historical culture and home land. Whether that is true you have to make your own mind up, they are not the only people in the modern world with mixed loyalties but people tread warily on this subject because of the holocaust and a collective guilt felt by the western intelligensia. Even when a British Jewish civil servant sold nuclear equipement without authorisation to Israel he was not accused of treachery because such sensitivities. Anyone else would have spent 20 year in prison. The mind boggles.

Though it seems to me that Jewishness is a cultural identity not a racial identity. You just have to take a trip to Israel, you will see fair skinned blond jews, right through to what appears to be sub-Saharan African Jews.



I feel they have opened the can of worms.

Please tell me any race creed color or religion that has not been persecuted and or enslaved at one point in time or anotheror targets of genocide etc?  We all have!  So shall I go back in history an hold it against the world today for what was done to my ancestors?  I think not.

I had nothing to do with the holocaust and most of the people who did are are long gone dead so why should I be made to walk on eggs to the point that my freedom to even discuss things is prohibited because someone will dramatize it to the nth degree just to shut the conversation down, and for something I have nothing to do with in the first place.  

So that is why I posted this not only to educate all of us but to educate jews because the average good person jew I am sure has no clue that there are other jewish traditions that are rather secret and not so nice for those who do know and have been keeping it under wraps are just as bad as the perps.

Combine that with people who do not know how to separate one segment or class of jew from another and they talk about something and simply say "the jews" did it, and all hell and brimstones break loose from the jewish community.

What I have given everyone here is a method by which we can specifically identify a jewish underworld segment even if it means invent a new word like "sayanism" so these matters can be discussed and brought out into the open.   Now people can point to a specific jew just like they pointed to a very specific sicilian when saying "mafia", and now good jews have no justification in shutting those conversations down any longer.  Or do they?

Otherwise if you look at the sayanist entrenchments already existing here in the us and through out the world it is no wonder things like wtc murrah happen and its all "coincidence" and every one just happened to be looking the in the other direction at that particular moment and we cant figure out how they got those visas and look at how that department failed.

Its the same way all over the world uk too as you pointed out.

We have more than one secret group operating in this country and from what I have seen and the research I have done on wtc and other issues it appears to me that 2 HUGE factions have teamed as a result of 911 and if nothing is done about it starting with education and TALKING about it there will be hell to pay in the future and no escape.

Frankly I think getting all of this on the table and out in the open will in the end save us from another holocaust as I can just imagine if enough people catch wind of what is going on in secret they may go on lynching and extermination rampage like hitler did.  Getting it out in the open will educate everyone to whom the real perps are so this kind of shit "never" happens again while at the same time protect our country from these and other secret agencies like the us government.

I think I can safely say that the practice of criminal sayanism is much worse terrorism than any jihadist because they not only have a plan but no one is allowed to talk about it for fear of upsetting someone.

Well I am upset with this hush hush secret approach.






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