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Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 11:38:58 AM

DiannaVesta

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This is addressed towards the dominant ladies on this board. Subs can also give their opinions and feed back but the question is primarily directed towards women.

If you could spend time with a well train submissive man with no ties, would you? This man would be reasonably trained as a domestic and open-minded enough to try new things. After some initial contact he would arrive at the place of your choosing and be ready to serve you at any capacity you see fit, respecting limits, of course. There would be no ties, just a chance for you to experience a well train submissive male.

He could cook, clean, give massage, whatever you want. He is your slave for the day.

Let me elaborate some more.

I have nearly 20 years experience in female domination. I thoroughly train males in protocol, manners, services, etc. If you knew a sub was trained by someone experienced, such as myself, would you consider a meeting? It would not matter if you were a novice or experienced Domina.

I’m curious.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 11:52:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

This is addressed towards the dominant ladies on this board. Subs can also give their opinions and feed back but the question is primarily directed towards women.

If you could spend time with a well train submissive man with no ties, would you? This man would be reasonably trained as a domestic and open-minded enough to try new things. After some initial contact he would arrive at the place of your choosing and be ready to serve you at any capacity you see fit, respecting limits, of course. There would be no ties, just a chance for you to experience a well train submissive male.

He could cook, clean, give massage, whatever you want. He is your slave for the day.

Let me elaborate some more.

I have nearly 20 years experience in female domination. I thoroughly train males in protocol, manners, services, etc. If you knew a sub was trained by someone experienced, such as myself, would you consider a meeting? It would not matter if you were a novice or experienced Domina.

I’m curious.

Thanks,
Dianna

I don't think I would, because so much training is a personal choice of style, etc. I have had to "untrain" many submissives, just as I am sure many of my "well trained" submissives have been "untrained" by their later partners.

Also, if the submissive man paid for any of his training before he was given to me, I think that creates an "obligation by proxy" that would make me uneasy. Maybe other women would not care, but I think I'd feel uneasy if I knew that he paid for some training in order to be placed in service, and that this was his big payoff, and that he had expectations. I am not sure if the 'pre training' you speak of you charge money for - but that's an ethical issue I'd wrestle with.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 11:55:01 AM

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Ma`am Dianna....... Would You meet someone trained by another ?

i`m just being nosey

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 11:57:44 AM

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Well Akasha you train your own slaves and have expereince doing so. BUT if you were a novice domina or lady interested in trying different types of subs you might consider it.

I have males that I've trained and sent to friends that weren't in the scene, per se. Many didn't want the ties or to deal with all the training stuff, so to speak. They simply enjoyed having a well trained male around for the day or explore some of their own fantasies.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 11:59:22 AM

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Ma`am Dianna....... Would You meet someone trained by another ?

i`m just being nosey

Yes and I have. I've had women I know refer a slave moving to my area and after some contact yes I did agree to meet with them. I guess it would depend who trained them and how our phone conversation went.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 12:02:17 PM

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Thanks for the reply Ma`am.... my guess would be that most Dominas would have some things they wished to change, in an already trained submissive, however small.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 12:07:19 PM

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Thanks for the reply Ma`am.... my guess would be that most Dominas would have some things they wished to change, in an already trained submissive, however small.

Of this I am sure but remember there are no strings attached. If you meet and get along well then like any relationship things get worked out and everyone has a preference, I would think.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 12:21:22 PM

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I adore sessioning with a well trained sub-I always ask who they have seen-the difference between a dungeon frequenter and independent Domme client is HUGE-the latter are so much edgier, obedient, just plain fun! Thank you for training these boys to be good partners.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 12:46:30 PM

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I would not want someone taught intricacies by another unless the understanding is that:

Even though you come to me knowing XYZ how I want X may be like this and Y is just like you learned and Z well...I don't do that at all!

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 12:49:29 PM

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No. I brought a submissive/slave into My home once that was trained by a Domina---we spent 6 months arguing about how to do things," his way was right", "she was a true life Domina and knew the old ways"---pffttt after 6 months, I put his trained ass back on the train.

If I want someone pretrained to that extent, I will call Merry Maids.

Nice new pic by the way Dianna.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 1:43:42 PM

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I would only consider it, if I was friends with both the Mistress and her slave. I would take the time to observe her style, and her slaves responses, and decide from there if I can do it. And not to mention quite a few conversations with both of them, together and seperate.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 1:51:41 PM

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What a broad-based query. And it's somewhat conjecture ... some submissives can be naturally accomodating no matter the training nor from whom such comes.

"Slave for a day" is nice but personally, I'd rather have more than a day.

In my opinion, your query totally depends on the individual, the Trainer and the circumstances. But truly training from another is hardly comparable to being efficient in knowledge of the rules and needs of a specific Mistress or household.

Sadly, it's also been my experience that one Woman's treasure is another Woman's trash.

I'd meet but I wouldn't bet the farm on it being successful based merely on the training of another.

Just my few pennies.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 2:28:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

No. I brought a submissive/slave into My home once that was trained by a Domina---we spent 6 months arguing about how to do things," his way was right", "she was a true life Domina and knew the old ways"---pffttt after 6 months, I put his trained ass back on the train

< Acts all innocent > Is this whats meant by re-training then Ma`am ?

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 2:31:28 PM

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If this man could express himself well and comport himself in a dignified manner, as his training might have encouraged, I'd be apt to talk with him, ascertain our compatibility, and meet for coffee or a meal. The simple fact that he could claim to have spent time with an experienced dominant wouldn't make me feel better about him, but the results of time with her (attentiveness, clear communication, good manners) might.

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 2:45:46 PM

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If I wasn't surrounded by a lil one and family most of the time, I would absolutely accept service from someone without additional attachment, but as I'm rather busy, and my life is more complicated than my being home alone to let boy in to clean/do laundry, I would not because it would require too much work/planning to allow for such an arrangement. M

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 3:15:08 PM

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If there truely were no strings attached, and I would be able to use this male for whatever *I* wanted - with no demand on services performed in return; Absolutely!
However, and this is the big "aber", in my experience there is *always* demands on services performed, in one way or another. Either there are demands that you will set them to perform only the tasks they take pleasure in performing, or they expect you to run behind them with a whip and punish them for doing badly, which obviously they will in order to get what they want. Far more trouble than use...

In all other cases I prefer to train myself.

Sophie - who is rather disenchanted today. Does it show? :)

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 3:43:21 PM

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Is your question to see if there is a market base for a new enterprise?

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 3:46:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

I would only consider it, if I was friends with both the Mistress and her slave. I would take the time to observe her style, and her slaves responses, and decide from there if I can do it. And not to mention quite a few conversations with both of them, together and seperate.

I didn't even consider this aspect. I immediately thought she was training them and sending them on their way...they weren't owned. I saw business and big bucks. I train you. I place you. I make money.

Hm...not likely I'd borrow someone else's slave since I don't share my own

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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 3:54:40 PM

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If it was really for one day and no strings etc, yes. It might be fun to have my boy here for a session and have another gentleman in the house washing the dishes, running the vacuum, cleaning the bathrooms while I played. I wonder if my boy would be jealous or wonder who and what and why about the stranger in the house. If he gave a good foot and back massage all the better. Some things are simple and training is training and this was set up to be a one time no strings show up and do whats on the list and grovel and thank me for allowing him into my home ... sure.
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RE: Ladies- Would you? - 8/8/2007 4:34:00 PM

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(responded to just the last post, not to the content of the last post)

What I'm finding interesting about this thread is something that's being hinted at but not said, spoken around but not solidified. The first post asks if someone would be interested in spending time with a well trained submissive. A lot of responses have indicated a negative response, stating that they would not want to have to go through the work of "retraining" this submissive.

This brings up a really significant question to me then. Having been owned before and trained several times by several different dominants, does that make me LESS suitable now as a submissive because I'm already used baggage that's been trained and would take too much time for someone to have to go through all of that labor when she could start off fresh with a new subbie from the "Just in" selection they got in at Wal Mart?

Because having read the responses in this thread, it gives me the impression that if I ever want to attract a potential partner again, I may have to lie my ass off and say I've had zero experience as a submissive or slave and that I'm all wide eyed and bushy tailed to learn these new things that I have no idea of what they might be. I'm finding this thought very interesting, and quite reflective on what I perceive may be one of the problems I may have been observing.

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