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Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 9:24:50 AM

dovie

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Watching an episode of Star Trek this morning; "The Gamesters of Triskelion." The storyline in this episode has many BDSM overtones. Makes me wonder about Gene Roddenberry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gamesters_of_Triskelion

Slaves
Collars of obedience
Training with a whip
Poly relationships
Slave Auctions
"Providers"
Masters
Discipline and Punishment
Trans slaves... Chekhov was obviously intrigued and nervous.

Uhuru played a prominent role in this episode. Many people grew up lusting after her. My choice was Spock, but I would not be able to wait seven years for him to get er, "excited." Kirk of course was the choice of many women. The first intergalactic male slut! ~laughing~

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 10:07:12 AM

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That episode first aired when I was about 13. If I hadn't already been showing an interest in D/s I might well suspect it to be a leading cause of my involvement in it a few years later. I'm sure many young boys of my generation find that to be among their favorite original Star Trek episodes. Lots of boys must have had fantasies about Thralls in silver bikinis. Right up there with Bat Girl as a green dancer in the pilot.

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 10:16:12 AM

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slight hijack:
How many of you SCAdians have realized that the symbol for the kingdom of trimaris (florida) is the triskele?...ever wondered?

And yea, I love that episode....

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 11:18:24 AM

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Did the symbol precede that episode or is it the other way around ? It does seem quite a coincidence. Perhaps there are some older kinksters in here who could shed some light on that.

I like that episode. I think my favorite was The Doomsday Machine though. Kirk: "Can you rig this ship to blow up ?". What Scotty was thinking : "You fuckin gotta be kidding me, I been working all day just to keep the muthafuker from blowing up !".

If that symbol was indeed used for PE or BDSM before 1966 it is totally possible that they took one episode and decided to appeal to the kinksters. But IIRC they had three suns, thus the name and the symobol. But then that could've just been a smokescreen for the vanilla people.

Not to hijack too much, but Trekkies in here, did you ever notice how there are a bunch of episodes that are just missing ? You've seen the collections, they do not account for all of them. Somewhere there are episodes so long lost that I can't even think of them, and I used to watch that series with a gun. (figuratively) There were no VCRs back then, so get it while the getting is good. If my little sister made too much noise I put her in a plastic bag in 2 seconds flat. Even if Dad talked too much I turned up the volume.

I was a serious Trekkie, in fact I was told I was named in part after Jeffrey Hunter, who played the original Captain Pike in the first few episodes. (but not for that role, I was born in 1960)

OK, to unhijack, think about it, they wore those harnesses. To my knowledge they were never attached to anything. They seemed like a symbol, a symbol of captivity. I'm sure the Triskelians were dominant in nature. I also find it hard to believe that homo sapiens were the first species to come along who told them to go fuck off. Of course it is fiction, and we don't know how many thralls they had to kill off before that episode.

As years go by, as we remember this old series that barely made it to the 70s, in this future, we find many things which makes one go Hmmmmmm. Take a look at a RAZR phone. In fact, remove the screen from a RAZR and put a pin on it so it will attach to the user's shirt and we got the communicators in TNG covered as well. Now if we just get warp drive and transporters we will not have to worry about the cost of gasoline.

There is really too much to say, so I will stop now.

T

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 3:24:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

slight hijack:
How many of you SCAdians have realized that the symbol for the kingdom of trimaris (florida) is the triskele?...ever wondered?

And yea, I love that episode....

Errrmm... we do realize that the triskelion has been around for centuries, and that the SCA useage probably predates the BDSM logo?

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 4:01:23 PM

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We'll you have to wonder about Gene Roddenberry anyway. Two of his failed television pilots; "Planet Earth" and "Genesis II", had themes revolving around slavery. The "Planet Earth" series was going to deal with a post-apocalyptic Earth broken down into little fiefdoms with their own individual cultures. The pilot episode of the series was about a matriarchal society where men were kept as slaves. The "Genesis II" series pilot also dealt with slavery broken down into mutants and humans if memory serves me. I haven't seen either of them in many years. They used to show them late at night when they still showed B-movies on a lot of the local stations, then later on Turner networks and the USA network.

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 5:37:07 PM

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oh you need to watch farscape or firefly lol now there is a show with bdsm

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 5:42:38 PM

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I wanted Chekov. Badly.
Especially after that episode, I watched it at school for the first time.

DV

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 5:44:05 PM

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Never saw Firefly but am an avid fan of Farscape. A few episodes of Farscape made the Star Trek episode of the OP look rather tame.

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 5:46:05 PM

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The new Battlestar Galatica has women ( actually very hot Cylon women) in collars, chains, and cages in almost every episode. Sci fi is full of BDSM type themes

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 5:49:24 PM

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About the missing episodes, I get that feeling as well sometimes. Of course, only 79 of the 80 episodes that were made actually aired. I do think, though, that they have all been accounted for.

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 6:17:40 PM

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The only correlation I saw in Star Trek to bdsm was that Shatner's gut seemed to be constantly restricted....It appeared to be bound tighter and tighter with each passing season.....Is anyone into gut restriction play?

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 7:08:40 PM

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As a Dom who embraces lifestyle D/s and bdsm, the style of triskele I wear serves a dual purpose. I am Pagan in my spiritual beliefs, and I know the triskele best as a tripartite symbol composed of 3 interlocking spirals.
This is a very ancient Celtic symbol (found in both ancient and modern Celtic art) that represents the 3 Celtic realms of material existance: earth, water and sky (or air). It also represents the sun, afterlife and reincarnation.
http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefstriskele.htm

I found it in a Scottish shop that had nothing at all to do with bdsm, and knew I had to buy it, since it so beautifully served a dual purpose in displaying my beliefs.
The design I have, in sterling silver, is very elaborate. I will try to get a good photo of it and post it in my profile when I get a chance.

It certainly means much more than just Star Trek (and I too loved that episode) and bdsm though.
See this link for a great many more ancient and modern uses of this fascinating symbol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion

Sincerely,
Alexander

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/6/2007 8:48:49 PM

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The BDSM Triskelion comes from the novel The Story of O.

As I recall wasn't it a ring that the slave women wore?

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/7/2007 8:51:20 AM

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I think that was Housewives of Gor

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/7/2007 9:22:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I was a serious Trekkie, in fact I was told I was named in part after Jeffrey Hunter, who played the original Captain Pike in the first few episodes. (but not for that role, I was born in 1960)

T

greetings Termyn8or,

see, i thought i saw you at the Star Trek Convention. i was the "Tribble." bahahaha

.....my foray into "furrydom." Captain Pike=man of honor. I loved the episode when Spock hijacked the Enterprise to return Captain Pike to Talos IV. Pike was allowed to live out his days in "virtual reality." The Talosians were praticing "Eugenics." very interesting!

dream well,
dovie

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/7/2007 9:23:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Errrmm... we do realize that the triskelion has been around for centuries, and that the SCA useage probably predates the BDSM logo?

Actually, Trimaris has only been using the triskelion for about 20 years, I dont know how long its been considered a BDSM symbol...its just a corrolation I always thought was neat. It actually is a reference to the "three seas" that surround florida.

Gene Roddenbery has slipped in some BDSM overtones into quite a lot of his serieses (is serieses a word?)

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/7/2007 9:25:41 AM

dovie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alexander48

This is a very ancient Celtic symbol (found in both ancient and modern Celtic art) that represents the 3 Celtic realms of material existance: earth, water and sky (or air). It also represents the sun, afterlife and reincarnation.
http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefstriskele.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion

Sincerely,
Alexander

greetings Alexander48,

thank you for this information.

dream well,
dovie

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/7/2007 9:35:35 AM

dovie

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greetings Ghita,

love your posts! and no, "serieses"is not a word. however, here is my disclaimer.

disclaimer: i'm a terrible spelter. ~smiles~

dream well,
dovie

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RE: Star Trek and BDSM "Triskelion" Style - 8/7/2007 9:40:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Errrmm... we do realize that the triskelion has been around for centuries, and that the SCA useage probably predates the BDSM logo?

Actually, Trimaris has only been using the triskelion for about 20 years, I dont know how long its been considered a BDSM symbol...its just a corrolation I always thought was neat. It actually is a reference to the "three seas" that surround florida.

Gene Roddenbery has slipped in some BDSM overtones into quite a lot of his serieses (is serieses a word?)

They got their kingdom arms passed about 25 years ago, IIRC, with a couple of generic triskeles on it...Quagmyr says the BDSM-specific version came about in 1995.

And Star Trek had nothing on the original Avengers

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