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The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 5:36:11 AM

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The GOP, Ron Paul & Non-Interventionism
Gregory ScobleteFri Aug 3, 8:30 AM ET

In politics, ideas frequently spread like viruses. Even if their host succumbs, the ideas that animated them can survive to infect the body politic. Such was the certainly case with Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. In the era of the Great Society, his limited government views were resoundingly rejected by the electorate in his 1964 presidential bid. Yet those same ideas eventually culminated in a very contagious outbreak - the Reagan revolution -16 years later.

Will there be a similar legacy for Texas congressman Ron Paul? Yes, Paul's platform differs greatly from Goldwater's and Paul is even more of a long shot than was Goldwater in winning the nomination, which was half of Goldwater's great achievement, but we know one element of the comparison is already apt: Paul will not be President of the United States. But just as Goldwater's limited government creed found a receptive public years later, one theme of Paul's campaign will, with time, also carry the day: his embrace of non-interventionism.
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RE: The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 5:46:31 AM

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Northern Gent and I will not be running. While it would be a very balanced ticket, and would be good for the entire planet overall, I fear that he would not so easily allow me to bill myself first, and we would still be in endless negotiations over that point at the outset. Besides which, he feels that I am a butcher of the english language on the order of Kosovo.

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RE: The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 6:26:52 AM

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Northern Gent and I will not be running. While it would be a very balanced ticket, and would be good for the entire planet overall, I fear that he would not so easily allow me to bill myself first, and we would still be in endless negotiations over that point at the outset. Besides which, he feels that I am a butcher of the english language on the order of Kosovo.

Ron

Granted, I haven't made it public, a touch slow off the mark there, but I am running for it.

My one election slogan is "join my fold and things will pan out fine, otherwise, I define witch in the broadest possible sense, which transcends gender barriers".

I quite like the look of Pat Robertson as my deputy, and I'm with him in his view that "there is a battle being fought for the very soul of America", which is exactly why I'm joining the fray, I want that soul.

To all concerned, I am on the look out for 50 Gaulieters and a competent spin machine.

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RE: The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 7:02:30 AM

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Northern Gent and I will not be running. While it would be a very balanced ticket, and would be good for the entire planet overall, I fear that he would not so easily allow me to bill myself first, and we would still be in endless negotiations over that point at the outset. Besides which, he feels that I am a butcher of the english language on the order of Kosovo.

Ron

Granted, I haven't made it public, a touch slow off the mark there, but I am running for it.

My one election slogan is "join my fold and things will pan out fine, otherwise, I define witch in the broadest possible sense, which transcends gender barriers".

I quite like the look of Pat Robertson as my deputy, and I'm with him in his view that "there is a battle being fought for the very soul of America", which is exactly why I'm joining the fray, I want that soul.

To all concerned, I am on the look out for 50 Gaulieters and a competent spin machine.

I didn't realize until this very moment that you were not extreme enough. Another reason we can't run on the same ticket.

Ron

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RE: The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 8:08:15 AM

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I became a conservative by reading the Wash.post of all papers but not only is Ron Paul just about the most attractive candidate but truly seems to adhere to the original conservative republican idealogy started by Abe Lincoln. Paul is following that of our founding fathers in that we were not to engage in 'foreign entanglements.' He impresses me as a non-idealogical pragmatist.

On a side note...I talked to many a republican in Wash., Va. and WVa. and to a person they unanimoulsy told me they too thought we had no business going into Iraq.

Fast forward to the never realized 'Reagen revolution' that really didn't do that much and instead fiscally took the mantra of the 'Laffer Curve' that worked...it made all of us orthodox conservatives...'laff.' So the result was a reduction in tax rates not taxes. Founding-father conservatism held that there was to be no tax on labor. Reagen only set the stage for the neo-con (a term I coined among my circle of friends for 10 years or more). Their problem is so often doing almost exactly what they insulted and blasted the democrats for doing. Reagan gave light and strength to the GOP urge in their own way to enjoy the gratification of big-government deficit spenders...and they have partied ever since.

Ron Paul sticks out during this debate while the rest give their idealogical bullshit...oh I'm sorry...spin.

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RE: The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 9:20:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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Northern Gent and I will not be running. While it would be a very balanced ticket, and would be good for the entire planet overall, I fear that he would not so easily allow me to bill myself first, and we would still be in endless negotiations over that point at the outset. Besides which, he feels that I am a butcher of the english language on the order of Kosovo.

Ron

Granted, I haven't made it public, a touch slow off the mark there, but I am running for it.

My one election slogan is "join my fold and things will pan out fine, otherwise, I define witch in the broadest possible sense, which transcends gender barriers".

I quite like the look of Pat Robertson as my deputy, and I'm with him in his view that "there is a battle being fought for the very soul of America", which is exactly why I'm joining the fray, I want that soul.

To all concerned, I am on the look out for 50 Gaulieters and a competent spin machine.

I didn't realize until this very moment that you were not extreme enough. Another reason we can't run on the same ticket.

Ron

Well, yeah, I'm offering a mere, middle-of-the-road regime of terror.

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RE: The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 9:32:45 AM

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RE: The GOP, Ron Paul, and non-interventionism - 8/5/2007 12:15:15 PM

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It's funny that people think of Bush as "a Republican".
He couldn't be any further away from Republicanism if he tried!
If someone were describing Bush and his policies in an article and left out his name you'd think he was more Democrat than Republican.
The real Republicans who I know are just scratching their heads wondering how Bush snuck into their party.
Ron Paul is becomming more popular because a lot of Americans agree with him on non-intervention.
I couldn't see at all why Clinton would get the U.S. involved in Bosnia or Kosovo!
I figured that he missed Vietnam so that was (his) way of "getting into the fight" as he even said that he was "in the military" by virtue of being Commander in Cheif.
I mean, what did Bosnia or Kosovo have to do with the U.S.?
Any other President would never have gotten us involved in that!
In cases like that if the U.S. is going to "do" anything it should just be to air drop in weapons and ammunition.
And the people working for Clinton didn't even know the different factions and which side they were on in Bosnia and Kosovo.
And now, we have so called "refugees" still in the U.S. from those countries 13 years later!
When will they be repatriated?

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