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Sinergy -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/20/2007 6:41:44 PM)
Ya know, when the Iraqi prime minister warns the US against leaving Iraq, and posits that not doing everything possible to establish order would be a humanitarian crime of epic proportions, I shed a tiny tear. Then I remember their newly elected Government took the summer off. Fuck 'em all. Sinergy p.s. I imagine I would not be so chagrined if he had given his fucking speech to HIS OWN GOVERNMENT rather than the news agencies.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/20/2007 6:51:12 PM)
well, it is a matter of dedication, and if we send 20,000 more troops over there, and if we buck up and show the fuckin sand niggers how democracy really works, they are gonna catch on, because we are right and you know it, america is the gratest (yup I know what I did) country on earth, and everybody should have our principles, and if you fuckin kill enough of em, then they are gonna get hep to our program........I mean dont be a dumbass, just look at the crusades...................they tried to kill our god then, and are trying to do that again, we have to do something Osama bin Lauden-----------that is who we are after, take the larger view----------- china is next straighten out those gooks once we are done with this, we only been doing the colonialization of these fuckwads for a centruy or so, looks like from the last report card they are caving---------give it another couple years. Ku, Fu, Chi, Sui Ka----------- I know you see this Sinergy............ We don't have it---fl;ush the toilet, we cannot get this in 1000 years hence even

Vendaval -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 1:07:53 AM)
Obama makes a very good point and I think it is important that we re-examine and re-define US foreign policy, especially in regards to military intervention in sectarian violence.

Alumbrado -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 6:12:22 AM)
All we need to hear from him now, is a very specific and detailed 'how'.

farglebargle -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 8:20:12 AM)
While that would be good, we didn't hear and haven't heard a very specific and detailed "how" from the Loyal Bushies, have we? So, absent a very specific and detailed "how" to the failed occupation we're stuck in, how could it get worse?

Level -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 8:42:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle While that would be good, we didn't hear and haven't heard a very specific and detailed "how" from the Loyal Bushies, have we? So, absent a very specific and detailed "how" to the failed occupation we're stuck in, how could it get worse? *That's the bad thing about life, fb; it can always* get worse.**

Sinergy -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 10:49:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado All we need to hear from him now, is a very specific and detailed 'how'. Drive to the airport or the port. Board a plane or a ship. Turn the lights out. Leave. It is not rocket science. Sinergy p.s. Edited to mention that the last one out takes the flag.

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 10:54:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Genocide is Genocide. If your ALLEGED MOTIVATION is to stop slaughters and genocide, it's hypocritical to invade and occupy the oil fields of Iraq, but not invade and occupy sub-saharan Africa. Of course, we all KNOW that Bush is full of shit with his justifications for being in Iraq, don't we? Farg, you're big on the Constitution. Where does it say that our "Army" is there to stop genocides in foreign countries? It (does) say something about stemming "invasions" though, doesn't it?

Sinergy -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 11:03:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 It (does) say something about stemming "invasions" though, doesn't it? Are you suggesting we took out Saddam because he was planning to invade the United States? Wow, just... wow. Sinergy

TheHeretic -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 11:42:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail We don't have it---fl;ush the toilet, we cannot get this in 1000 years hence even From where we are now, no, we cannot get it. Make the changes, play a different game, we could. We could get it in a way the world hasn't seen in a while, with toys to go with a killing mood. Is that a better option? Or inevitable anyway?

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 1:32:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 It (does) say something about stemming "invasions" though, doesn't it? Are you suggesting we took out Saddam because he was planning to invade the United States? Wow, just... wow. Sinergy Sinergy, not at all. Ahhhh, I didn't say that, you did. And what is this "Peace Keeper" Bullshit? I don't know how many of you were in the Military but we were never called "Peace Keepers!" We were WARRIORS. The Military's job is to kill and destroy our enemies. Any way you can. Why don't we just say to all the..........Dentists in this country, "OK, you guys aren't Dentists anymore, we're going to start calling you "Coal Miners" instead!" "Now get down in that coal mine and start "drilling!"

farglebargle -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 2:08:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 It (does) say something about stemming "invasions" though, doesn't it? Are you suggesting we took out Saddam because he was planning to invade the United States? Wow, just... wow. Sinergy Didn't YOU see the Republican Guard massing T-72 main battle tanks on the Mexican border?

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 4:20:22 PM)
Farg, go read that Obama "Picket Line" thread. This guy's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

farglebargle -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 5:09:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Farg, go read that Obama "Picket Line" thread. This guy's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Since he's black, I don't know why we're even discussing him. It's a toss up of who is less electable. Obama ( rhymes with... ) or the Gay Jew from New York.

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 5:33:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Farg, go read that Obama "Picket Line" thread. This guy's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Since he's black, I don't know why we're even discussing him. It's a toss up of who is less electable. Obama ( rhymes with... ) or the Gay Jew from New York. Farg, Abadaba's "Black?" He doesn't look Black. He looks Middle Eastern. Oh, and who's the gay Jew from N.Y., Hillary Clinton? She did say she was "Jewish" along with Russian, German, French, English, Italian, Swedish, Irish, Scottish, Hungarian, Swahili..... And, she does like the ladies.

farglebargle -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/21/2007 6:29:59 PM)
Bloomberg.

Alumbrado -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/22/2007 6:13:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle While that would be good, we didn't hear and haven't heard a very specific and detailed "how" from the Loyal Bushies, have we? So, absent a very specific and detailed "how" to the failed occupation we're stuck in, how could it get worse? If you think Bush is running for President in the next election, you really need to catch up. How could it get worse? I guess that depends on your perspective. Fom my point of view, having a President from either party who takes the current situation and continues to exploit it for personal, partisan, or financial gain would be undesirable. So I want to hear from these candidates exactly what they are going to do to dismantle the apparatus in place, not how they can be trusted with the keys to it.

sharainks -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/22/2007 6:19:04 AM)
Does it occur to anyone but me (in terms of Iraq only) that the easiest way to win this war is to leave and let them kill each other off? Its always amazed me that our humanitarian polices seldom seem to apply unless the country in "trouble" has oil.

Alumbrado -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/22/2007 6:22:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado All we need to hear from him now, is a very specific and detailed 'how'. Drive to the airport or the port. Board a plane or a ship. Turn the lights out. Leave. It is not rocket science. Sinergy p.s. Edited to mention that the last one out takes the flag. And that is going to provide humanitarian aid to the Sudan, et al., exactly how? Some may impressed with empty rhetoric like that, but I want to hear something besides the same old, same old. I want Obama and the one or two other alleged outsiders to spell out what specific plans they will draw up, how they will find funding, what they have thought of in case of problems... You know, the same sort of stuff I would expect a competent plumber to tell me before I turned them loose on my house with a tool bag.

ChallengeMe -> RE: Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide (7/22/2007 6:25:20 AM)
I'm reminded of a recent comedy routine where a great point is brought up. Lebanon. 1983...our army barracks are bombed by islamic radicals. 250 dead. The GREAT ICON of the modern republcian movement...MISTER republican himself, Ronald Reagan makes a decision on what to do about the terrorism. He orders our troops to cut and run. And we all remember the horrors the lebanese inflicted on our homeland when they followed us home. Don't we? Oh right. They didn't.

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