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LdyScarletDomina -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/23/2007 12:52:48 PM)

Vendeval, here is an artice describing exactly what this Executive Order means for US citizens. 

Bush Executive Order: Criminalizing the Antiwar Movement
Prof. Michel Chossudovsky , Globalresearch.ca
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=34664

July 20, 2007


A presidential Executive Order issued on July 17th, repeals with the stroke of a pen the right to dissent and oppose the Iraq war. 

In substance, the Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of  "certain persons" who oppose the US led war in Iraq:



"I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people." 

The Executive Order criminalizes the antiwar movement. It is intended to  "blocking property" of  US citizens and nationals. It targets those "Certain Persons" in America who oppose the Bush Administration's "peace and stability" program in Iraq, characterized, in plain English, by an illegal occupation and the continued killing of innocent civilians. 
The Executive Order also targets those "Certain Persons" who are "undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction", or who, again in plain English, are opposed to the confiscation and privatization of  Iraq's oil resources, on behalf of the Anglo-American oil giants.  

The order is also intended for anybody who opposes Bush's program of  "political reform in Iraq", in other words, who questions the legitimacy of an Iraqi "government" installed by the occupation forces. 

Moreover, those persons or nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), who provide bona fide humanitarian aid to Iraqi civilians, and who are not approved by the US Military or its lackeys in the US sponsored Iraqi puppet government are also liable to have their financial assets confiscated.   

The executive order violates the First, Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the US Constitution. It repeals one of the fundamental tenets of US democracy, which is the right to free expression and dissent. The order has not been the object of discussion in the US Congress. Sofar, it has not been addressed  by the US antiwar movement, in terms of a formal statement.

Apart from a bland Associated Press wire report, which presents the executive order as "an authority to use financial sanctions", there has virtually no media coverage or commentary of a presidential decision which strikes at the heart of the US Constitution..

Broader implications 
The criminalisation of the State is when the sitting President and Vice President use and abuse their authority through executive orders, presidential directives or otherwise  to define "who are the criminals" when in fact they they are the criminals.  

This latest executive order criminalizes the peace movement. It must be viewed in relation to various pieces of "anti-terrorist" legislation, the gamut of presidential and national security directives, etc., which are ultimately geared towards repealing constitutional government in the case of an impending "national emergency". 

The war criminals in high office are intent upon repressing all forms of dissent which question the legitimacy of the war in Iraq. The executive order combined with the existing anti terrorist legislation is eventually intended to be used against the anti-war and civil rights movements. It can be used to seize the assets of antiwar groups in America as well as block the property and activities of non-governmental humanitarian organizations providing relief in Iraq, seizing the assets of alternative media involved in a critique of the US-led war, etc. 

In May 2007, Bush issued a major presidential National Security Directive (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20), which would suspend constitutional government and instate broad dictatorial powers under martial law in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" (Second 9/11 terrorist attack. 

On July 11, 2007 the CIA published its National Intelligence Estimate which pointed to an imminent Al Qaeda attack on America, a second 9/11 which would according to NSPD 51 immediately be followed by the suspension of constitutional government.

NSPD 51 grants unprecedented powers to the Presidency and the Department of Homeland Security, overriding the foundations of Constitutional government. It allows the sitting president to declare a "national emergency" without Congressional approval The adoption of NSPD 51 would lead to the de facto closing down of the Legislature and the militarization of justice and law enforcement.

The executive order to confiscate the assets of antiwar/peace activists is broadly consistent with NSPD 51. It could be triggered even in the absence of a "Catastrophic emergency" as envisaged under NSPD 51. It goes one step further in "criminalizing" all forms of opposition and dissent. to the US led war and "Homeland Security" agenda.



In other words ladies and gentlemen welcome to Nazi, Germany!  Does anyone have any advice on how to apply to the EU for asylum?

Lady Scarlet




Estring -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/23/2007 1:19:49 PM)

To all you people who are ragging on Bush and his Iraq policies, please be sure to let the rest of us know when your property is confiscated. I for one will not be holding my breath.




Alumbrado -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/23/2007 2:27:47 PM)

I wondered what happened to all the Quakers... you used to see them all over town in those funny hats, carrying their 'Stop the War' signs, and those boxes of cereal...then pffft!! - gone!.

Now we know why.....[8D]




Sinergy -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/23/2007 5:45:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Perhaps I'm growing up!



Nothing a good spanking wouldnt cure.

Sinergy




Jhin -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/23/2007 5:49:47 PM)

*Shakes her head*

and look at the replies you get... indiference




Sinergy -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/23/2007 5:56:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jhin

*Shakes her head*

and look at the replies you get... indiference


I am not indifferent to the possibility that a good spanking would help kittinSol avoid growing up, at least theoretically from my point of view.

If you had read any of my posts relating to AnencephalyBoy (I used to call him MonkeyBoy and the Simian In Chief but simians objected) and his ilk, I am shocked you think I am somehow indifferent.

Bush/Cheney for Prison, 2009.

Sinergy




Alumbrado -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 4:51:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jhin

*Shakes her head*

and look at the replies you get... indiference


No, sarcasm is not indifference.




farglebargle -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 5:48:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Estring

To all you people who are ragging on Bush and his Iraq policies, please be sure to let the rest of us know when your property is confiscated. I for one will not be holding my breath.


http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25889

You mean like when Indymedia's servers were siezed for a week?

Of course, I only did TEN SECONDS research for that example.

I am sure more will come.

Are you alleging that innocent people were NOT scooped up, and tossed into holding cells for 3 days during the Republican National Convention in NYC, and then released without charges after the President left town?





Alumbrado -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 5:55:34 AM)

And the goalposts move once again. 

Somewhere in America, a high school debate team is missing it's mascot

Will someone tell them where to find FB?




Crush -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 6:03:15 AM)

I still think we should have two term limits in the US...one in office then one in prison...or vice versa, since that way we'd KNOW we are sending a crook to D.C.

In the meantime, make your beanie now:   http://zapatopi.net/afdb/






Alumbrado -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 9:37:37 AM)

I've felt that public servants should know what it really means to 'serve a term', for quite some time now.




thompsonx -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 10:57:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yeah, I know, social programs suck and global warming is a hoax.

Maybe you'd like to add another string?  You know, like maybe EADGBEString?  Cuz right now you're playing on one string only.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Estring

You guys crack me up. You rail against something that will never affect your life in the least. But the many rights that are being taken away by the Left, nary a peep.



L&M, you're half right.
A lot of social programs are scammed. I mean Illegal Aliens are stealing from them!
As for global warming where can I buy my Star Trek suit.
Or do you guys make them yourselves?
Where do you get that nice shiny silver cloth? They have to be silver, right?
And where do you guys get those "Global Warming" helmets?
Can you convert an old football helmet to one?
I do not know why not....it would appear that your's was never used.

Fargle, don't leave the keys in your car overnight or one of Bushie's cronies may take it overnight.
Don't worry, this prick only has another 17 months in office and he's a lame duck  as far as congress is concerned.




farglebargle -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 11:18:39 AM)


"Fargle, don't leave the keys in your car overnight or one of Bushie's cronies may take it overnight. "

I live in Albany, and park on the street. I don't leave my keys in my car at all.





subfever -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 1:24:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Griswold

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Wow, talk about fucking over Due Process!

All Your Property Are Belongs To Bush!

Nice to see they don't even bother with Eminent Domain or Seizure proceedings before taking YOUR PROPERTY!

Exactly what constitutes a "Significant Threat of Committing"? Is that like Amadu Diallo's "Significant Threat to the Safety of the Officers who murdered him?"





Actually, while I didn't read the entirety of the above post, I know for a fact that it is actually impossible at this time (due to his constitution) for Bush to have in fact shit on the Constitution:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070721/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_colonoscopy



Yeah... I heard they found 5 polyps, and the lips of 2 Fox News correspondents stuck to his ass.




CuriousLord -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 1:39:41 PM)

You know, if I was Bush, I'd make SWCA (Screw With the Crazies Agency).  Every other weekend, they'd have an Apache fly around some major city with a UFO cover around the base of it, and I'd write a blog about how my newest executive order brings me one step closer to becoming "Supreme Dictator of Everything Forever, Amen".




luckydog1 -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 3:37:28 PM)

CL, that was part of Rove's job, and he was good at it.




farglebargle -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 4:20:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

You know, if I was Bush, I'd make SWCA (Screw With the Crazies Agency). Every other weekend, they'd have an Apache fly around some major city with a UFO cover around the base of it, and I'd write a blog about how my newest executive order brings me one step closer to becoming "Supreme Dictator of Everything Forever, Amen".



Why bother when he can just defraud Congress into authorizing a private little war for the enrichment of his buddies.





CuriousLord -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 4:55:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle


quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

You know, if I was Bush, I'd make SWCA (Screw With the Crazies Agency). Every other weekend, they'd have an Apache fly around some major city with a UFO cover around the base of it, and I'd write a blog about how my newest executive order brings me one step closer to becoming "Supreme Dictator of Everything Forever, Amen".



Why bother when he can just defraud Congress into authorizing a private little war for the enrichment of his buddies.


Rather, why bother doing this when he can actually continue increasing his penis size by devouring the still-living hearts of third-world orphans?




farglebargle -> RE: Bush Shits On Constitution Again... (7/24/2007 5:04:06 PM)

Huh?





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