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Decanter -> Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 9:02:32 AM)

[8|] What I find rather peculiar here is that it seems when one offers friendship initially as opposed to immediate play, it appears to abruptly end any potential for further communications. To offer ones servitude/Dominance to another at the onset, to me sounds a bit foolish. Considering you've no idea to whom you're serving/dominating; (unless of course you solely seek on-line play); wouldn't it serve beneficial to get to know one another first? Call me a loon, but that seems fairly logical....Y/your thoughts?

Spankingly,
Decanter




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 9:06:40 AM)

It's the internet and those behaviors are not limited to collarme. Use it as a useful weeding technique.

Master Fire




Mercnbeth -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 9:17:44 AM)

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Call me a loon, but that seems fairly logical
Well, okay if you insist - you are a loon!

However, it doesn't take away from the accuracy or the logical, and rational aspect of your post.

This is an age of instant gratification. Friendship takes time, so does knowledge and trust of another person, physical sensation just takes a facilitator. And damn, you can end up wasting all that time and find out you really don't like or want to have a relationship and/or physical contact. Why would anyone want to risk that?

Maybe your choice of terms impacted your findings. Seeking D/s is not the same as seeking S/m. D/s comes with the inference of mental and/or emotional interaction. It is difficult to experience the dynamic required for that type of play in an instant. Make sure the people who you are in contact with understand and appreciate the distinction and perhaps you'll get better results.

Meanwhile - good luck, you "loon"!




Estring -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 9:22:20 AM)

You may be a loon, but you are a smart loon. Couldn't agree with you more.




onestandingstill -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 9:26:27 AM)

It seems in the instant gratification society we are in everyone does indeed seem to be in a hurry.
I agree to take your time & get to know potential play or more partners is essential to me before I'd be willing to play with someone I met on the web.
I tell my sub friends IMO a Dom who's trying to rush in and jump right in the middle does not seem to have much dicipline or self control to me.
I'd rather not be controlled by someone who can't even control themselves so I usually pass on the Buzz Lightyear sorts of Doms who approach me.
suznane





Decanter -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 9:31:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

It's the internet and those behaviors are not limited to collarme.


How very true indeed

quote:

Use it as a useful weeding technique.
Master Fire


weeding already in motion




AquaticSub -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 9:37:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Decanter

[8|] What I find rather peculiar here is that it seems when one offers friendship initially as opposed to immediate play, it appears to abruptly end any potential for further communications. To offer ones servitude/Dominance to another at the onset, to me sounds a bit foolish. Considering you've no idea to whom you're serving/dominating; (unless of course you solely seek on-line play); wouldn't it serve beneficial to get to know one another first? Call me a loon, but that seems fairly logical....Y/your thoughts?

Spankingly,
Decanter


Depends on the person, what they want, and how picky they can afford to be. I don't do the whole "friends first" thing and I never have. Probably never will. Every relationship of mine starts on the premise of "Well, I can't see myself not being willing to marry/commit my life to you 5 years down the line so let's see where this goes and if it works it works. If it doesn't work, well we had fun!"

I, personally, don't understand this idea of "getting to know each as friends" as though it's the logical course of action. It's a logical course of action, to be sure, but you can do the same thing while in a relationship taking things slow. Valyraen still hasn't collared me at over a year and a half, he didn't tie me up with anything I couldn't get out of for at least a month or two into our relationship, and we didn't make the move to be fully 24/7 until six months or so into our relationship.

Please don't misunderstand - if being friends first is what works for you in your relationships, go for it and don't settle for anything else. But understand that it is simply a way of doing things and others don't prefer it. [:)]

Edited for typo




Decanter -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 10:01:07 AM)

Merc, oss

On instant gratification...

The mind can be such a fickle beast really. It can easily create or destroy the best of wickedly delicious senarios all on its own. However, instant gratification to me seems more assisted masturbation then anything else...in my experience it caters to one of two types, those to whom imagination is fleeting (the assisted) or those who have not yet come to grips with his/her chosen station and or kink. Barring of course illegal acts and the lot of inhuman nasty creatures. Granted, instant gratification has its obvious perks, it for me negates the joys of "getting there" so to speak.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 12:03:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Decanter

[8|] What I find rather peculiar here is that it seems when one offers friendship initially as opposed to immediate play, it appears to abruptly end any potential for further communications. To offer ones servitude/Dominance to another at the onset, to me sounds a bit foolish. Considering you've no idea to whom you're serving/dominating; (unless of course you solely seek on-line play); wouldn't it serve beneficial to get to know one another first? Call me a loon, but that seems fairly logical....Y/your thoughts?

Spankingly,
Decanter


Like everything else in life, there is good and bad in both approaches.  I have had a friendship of around 25 years now with someone I met through my cousin and was sleeping with the next night.  I have also been nearly-stalked by someone that I slept within a couple of days of meeting.  Good and bad in the process of going "full-tilt" right away.

On the other hand, I courted my first wife for nearly 5 years.  We were married for ! 1/2 yrs (2 if you count the 6 months it takes for divorce to become final in Minnesota).  I courted my second wife for 3 years and we were together for 19 years, with 2 lovely ums and some good memories next to the bad ones.  Good and bad in the process of going slow and getting to know each other.

This really is an area...interpersonal relationships...where you have to pay attention.  In most cases, I would agree with Merc and those others who have said that in this venue and in real-life, that it is best to at least have some partial brakes on.




Decanter -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 12:20:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Depends on the person, what they want, and how picky they can afford to be. I don't do the whole "friends first" thing and I never have. Probably never will. Every relationship of mine starts on the premise of "Well, I can't see myself not being willing to marry/commit my life to you 5 years down the line so let's see where this goes and if it works it works. If it doesn't work, well we had fun!"

I, personally, don't understand this idea of "getting to know each as friends" as though it's the logical course of action. It's a logical course of action, to be sure, but you can do the same thing while in a relationship taking things slow. Valyraen still hasn't collared me at over a year and a half, he didn't tie me up with anything I couldn't get out of for at least a month or two into our relationship, and we didn't make the move to be fully 24/7 until six months or so into our relationship.

Please don't misunderstand - if being friends first is what works for you in your relationships, go for it and don't settle for anything else. But understand that it is simply a way of doing things and others don't prefer it. [:)]


All very true indeed and deeply respected. There is no one true construct for any relationship save for beginnings and whatever happens before it ends, if it ends. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from either perspective, the basic concept is the taking of time for things to develop in whatever way that relationship is determined, (ie. your 2nd paragraph). However, I do not see feasibility in a relationship that stems from "hi i'm joe, hi i'm jane, i'm the Dom/mme your the sub/slave period", without taking the time and work required for that to develop. Personally, I feel the same applies to friendships and some matches simply do not yolk. Nevertheless, like you said..."If it doesn't work, well we had fun." Thanks again ever so kindly for the perspective.

Decanter




























Celeste43 -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 2:15:32 PM)

There's a huge difference between saying you aren't interested in anything but friendship and saying you're incredibly nervous and need to wait a month or so before you could consider meeting and talking more intimately. How exactly are you saying not yet and could a man misread that as not ever? Women tend to use indirect language and men use direct, it's easy for them to misinterpret what we say and vice versa.




VermillionRain -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 2:46:05 PM)

I hope for friendship first as well - it is only with a meeting of the minds that a seduction of the heart is possible, and the gift of myself offered.




AquaticSub -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 2:52:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Decanter

All very true indeed and deeply respected. There is no one true construct for any relationship save for beginnings and whatever happens before it ends, if it ends. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from either perspective, the basic concept is the taking of time for things to develop in whatever way that relationship is determined, (ie. your 2nd paragraph). However, I do not see feasibility in a relationship that stems from "hi i'm joe, hi i'm jane, i'm the Dom/mme your the sub/slave period", without taking the time and work required for that to develop. Personally, I feel the same applies to friendships and some matches simply do not yolk. Nevertheless, like you said..."If it doesn't work, well we had fun." Thanks again ever so kindly for the perspective.

Decanter



I feel that a relationship has stages but that one can be in a very real relationship while it goes through those stages. To me, the friends period just doesn't appeal. I don't kiss friends, I don't have sex with friends, I generally don't scene with friends, so I don't see the point. I'd rather find out if we work in those ways upfront since I'm not sticking around if we don't.

Then again, I also very rarely date friends. I'd rather jump into a casual relationship and see where it goes. I've found that most people don't agree with me, but it's worked wonderfully for me.




Decanter -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 3:19:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Celeste43

There's a huge difference between saying you aren't interested in anything but friendship and saying you're incredibly nervous and need to wait a month or so before you could consider meeting and talking more intimately. How exactly are you saying not yet and could a man misread that as not ever? Women tend to use indirect language and men use direct, it's easy for them to misinterpret what we say and vice versa.


nope, i'm a "mean EXACTLY what you say" kind of girl... i've had my fill of people who speak in circles long ago. 




Decanter -> RE: Curious D/s interplay (7/18/2007 4:08:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I feel that a relationship has stages but that one can be in a very real relationship while it goes through those stages. To me, the friends period just doesn't appeal. I don't kiss friends, I don't have sex with friends, I generally don't scene with friends, so I don't see the point. I'd rather find out if we work in those ways upfront since I'm not sticking around if we don't.

Then again, I also very rarely date friends. I'd rather jump into a casual relationship and see where it goes. I've found that most people don't agree with me, but it's worked wonderfully for me.


My dearest friends, though few, were once play partners both before and after the relationship. Though we no longer play, those relationships have held fast and hold more worth then most of the friendships I have today. While with the others....I just wish to staple things to thier heads for the most part.




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