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my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 8:44:32 AM   
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this is a long read, but i was going to ask if anyone else has had such problems with walmart, and pasting my letter to them was easier than rewriting it.  i did edit the typos before i sent to them.......



In June, i went to this Walmart to purchase 4 new tires and an oil change. When i went to check out, i mistakenly scanned my debit card instead of my credit card.  i caught this mistake immediately, said to the cashier oops-and cleared the transaction out at the keypad.  it then instructed me to scan my card, which i di-the cc this time. the transaction went through, and i left a happy customer. A few days later, I went to balance my checkbook on line, and discovered my account was overdrawn, due to the transaction being done on the debit card, even though I cleared it out and scanned the cc.  the $375 had been deducted from checking, and this caused several small transactions to require OD protection, which added $158 more to my charges. That Monday, i went to the store, and a very nice lady helped me-she had to enter each item, one at a time to remove the charges from my debit card, and re-ring them, one item at a time, to place the charge on my cc.  After gettin each item on there, she hit total and there was a difference of 63 cents in the tax.  we both checked the entry, line by line, and she had entered exactly what was on the original receipt.  After much time of us trying to figure this out, I finally said i am not going to argue over 63 cents right now, i have to get ready to leave for fla, and i told her i would come see a manager when i returned from fla. i went in and spoke to an asst manager 2 weeks ago.  i had the receipts from both transactions, and asked her first, how the equipment could be so messed up as to not clear out my debit card-and how the difference in taxes could happen.. 63 cents is not much, but if you took 63 cents extra in taxes from everyone on the original day, i am sure your accountants are upset.  if you failed to collect 63 cents per customer on the day i went back, i am sure they are upset also.  no new tax laws went into effect in that 4 day period.  add to this the initial error of your equipment not clearing out a transaction that i was told it was cleared, by the prompts on the keypad, and i say you have a problem. the asst manager really looked at me like i had 4 eyeballs as i voiced my frustrations over this.  the OD fees i incurred, the trip back to the store, the 30 minutes of my time wasted while the nice lady had to enter, line by line, each item to correct a mistake that took 1 second to occur....she asked me again and again what i wanted her to do. i told her i wanted to be made whole.....back to where i was before this happened.  she said she couldnt do that-and took my name and number, promising she would have the store manager call me ASAP. i left walmart that day and spent $200 at kroger, refusing to give one more penny to your corporation until i felt someone has made some effort to offer me an explanation, condolences, a gift card, heck my 63 cents.....something to show you value customers. i have not heard from that manager.  today i give up on that happening.  i doubt it will matter to you that you have lost a customer for life...im sure my few hundred dollars a month that youre going to lose wont break such a huge corporation.  and, if someone is actually reading this, it may even make you giggle at the time i took to write it over such "silly" matters. but you have lost a customer for life....it will cost me more money in the long run, because you do have the lowest prices......but i will spend my money at stores where they at least pretend to value me as a customer.


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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 9:16:40 AM   
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Walmart sucks.

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 9:19:03 AM   
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Walmart are bastards. I boycott them.

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 9:29:54 AM   
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i know how you feel but from a diffrent view, i was resntly fired from walmart by trying to resovle a simlialr issue, but to begin with the first issue, what ever cashier checked you out inthe beginning should have known that when the customer is using debit cards and credit cards and they make an error in choosing cards they need to hit slipthen abort the transaction and this voids out all other payment presivlisy used, and depending on which they used, then go back and key in the barcodes by hand, yes it takess more time to do based on how well they are at keying in barcodes by hand,  but withthat method no charges will be made to what ever card you didnt want to use., ........ as far as the tax issue there could be a number af diffrent reasons what could have caused that, one being when someone is keying in barcodes or numbers it is very to change the tax table without knowing you've done it, and i dont know about their store as aposed to my old store but theres a range between 5% to 9.7% that you can change the taxes too, now a diffrent reason why the taxes could change, walmart changes prices on things inthe store hourly, doesnt seem right huh? butthey do it, and they're keep doing it cause they're walmart they seem to think they are god when it comes to stores.  and there little reply s saying the store manager will call you as soon as possible is a bold out lie, the store manager doesnt deal with customers if they can help it, in their eyes thats what other managers and customer service is for, and there is sucha thing called letter to the president (ceo of walmart) that you can recive the addy to by calling 1800-walmart .......... i recomend you call that, in fact me telling a customer how to do that is why i got fired cause i understood where  the customer was comming from, that shows i care, i have a heart, and they call that soft, weak, and they cant have that traits in an employee,  and to answer your last ? no they really dont care that they just lost an cutomer, one less to complain is what they see. hope i helped you to understand why they're blowing you off.

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 10:17:31 AM   
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I fucking HATE wal mart. I have worked at several ww stores. Only ONE manager was a good manager. He cared about his customers and even his employees. I miss him a lot. I wonder if he still manages the store in Quincy, IL. I refuse to shop at ww and I never pass up an opportunity to bash them. I'm so sorry you had to deal with this crap, SeeksOnlyOne and you, too, solitudesmiles.


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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 11:08:47 AM   
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I only go to wal-mart to buy cheap things that I dont expect to last long. The quality of their products is junk. I dont mind paying a little more for quality.

Customer service? That doesnt exist in this marketplace anymore...anywhere. Customer service jobs are in such high demand that they plug anyone in those positions willing to do it. Right now, the goal in customer service is to get you what you want and out of the store as quick as possible. That's the goal.

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 2:39:58 PM   
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I have a couple of questions:

1. Had you already entered your pin when you realized you didn't want to use your debit card?

2.  Assuming you didn't enter your pin, why wouldn't you question the bank about reversing the whole transaction?

3. Was it your debit/credit card that you used as a credit card after you decided not to use your debit card or was it an entirely different piece of plastic?
4. Were you charged twice? Once for debit and once for credit?

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 3:43:06 PM   
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quote:

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I have a couple of questions:

1. Had you already entered your pin when you realized you didn't want to use your debit card?    no

2.  Assuming you didn't enter your pin, why wouldn't you question the bank about reversing the whole transaction?   because, imho, the data should have never left the point of service, once the screen on the keypad confirmed the transaction was cancelled.  the cashier did not finish the transaction until i swiped my cc. and here, if using a visa check card, you dont have to enter a pin at a  point of sale.

3. Was it your debit/credit card that you used as a credit card after you decided not to use your debit card or was it an entirely different piece of plastic? entirely diff piece of plastic...

4. Were you charged twice? Once for debit and once for credit? nope-only on the debit card-nothing went on the cc.


my problem is that the keypad screen CONFIRMED the transaction was cancelled-it prompted me to scan my card, and still went with the original card i had cancelled.  i did call the bank, to explain what had happened, and they told me only walmart could fix it.....i am working with them to get the OD charges reversed, because they actually know i have been a customer for over 20 years and they accept the fact i wouldnt all of a sudden get stupid and decide to get my account $350 in the hole....

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 3:50:29 PM   
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I only go to wal-mart to buy cheap things that I dont expect to last long. The quality of their products is junk. I dont mind paying a little more for quality.

Customer service? That doesnt exist in this marketplace anymore...anywhere. Customer service jobs are in such high demand that they plug anyone in those positions willing to do it. Right now, the goal in customer service is to get you what you want and out of the store as quick as possible. That's the goal.


their grocery prices here are so much less than other stores, but i can use coupons and my kroger plus card and shop sales and do just fine without them........

i have a cousin that worked for them for 9 years-loved the first 5 or so, then she noticed a change on their attitude with employees and customers......she quit about 4 years ago, and also refuses to shop there any more.....

i used to shop there because they sold made in the usa as much as they could.......i just wont go back now....

damn i miss the lil corner stores, where folks were happy to see you come in the door......progress....ppffftthhhh

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 4:52:48 PM   
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a buddy of mine does cash and money oders period.   over the years- i think she come out ahead.

walmart only guarantees an item for 90 days. ironically- the ink on their reciept- fades very quickly- sooner then the 90 days.......

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 4:54:42 PM   
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BTW- walmart sets the specs of any given product. each year- the manufacture is to reduce the cost by 4%.... 

they set teh bar- hence it is pointless to shop at ABC or XYZ store- as they use the same manufacturers....

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 5:55:35 PM   
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I would file a small claims suit against them for the overdraft charges, lost wages, expenses, etc.

I would include copies of the two receipts showing the tax discrepencies in the documentation their legal department receives.

I suspect their lawyers would not want two receipts for identical purchases adding up to different amounts to ever see the light of day, particularly if the words "class action suit" somehow found its way in there.

Can you imagine the refunds Walmart would have to pay to everybody their faulty addition screwed out of 63 cents?

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 6:02:00 PM   
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and the thing is-this is in the tax area......the 63 cents.......id almost guess uncle sam dont like gettin gipped outa money......i really let this entire issue go when i sent them that email......writing cleanses me, but now i wonder if they will even acknowledge receiving it.......and if they dont, who knows, i might get pissy again.

us wimmen are like that i read somewhere

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 6:55:42 PM   
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Wal-mart is a place I have actively avoided for years...the last time I entered one it was to get a gift card for a little girl who requested it for a birthday gift (apparently they have no zellers where they live).

I have just heard too many stories of the sweatshops etc that they support in buying their merchandise, as well as seeing their everyday business ettiquette in stories such as this to even bother wasting My money (and I fully agree money there is wasted as most of their products suck).

And no...for those wondering...I don't support Nike either

Solitudesmiles...Would you mind re-posting that boycott walmart link? The posting it showed up in didn't quite work out...

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 6:58:47 PM   
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http://boycottwalmart.meetup.com/

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 8:43:02 PM   
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So you the second card you scanned was a completely different card? 

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 8:58:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

and the thing is-this is in the tax area......the 63 cents.......id almost guess uncle sam dont like gettin gipped outa money......i really let this entire issue go when i sent them that email......writing cleanses me, but now i wonder if they will even acknowledge receiving it.......and if they dont, who knows, i might get pissy again.

us wimmen are like that i read somewhere



Might be interesting to send copies of those two receipts to the IRS with a carbon-copy to Walmart...

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 9:00:03 PM   
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quote:

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So you the second card you scanned was a completely different card? 


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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 10:12:22 PM   
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Depending upon the type of system Wal-Mart has, unless the transaction is post voided, (negating the transaction entirely) the charges will remain on your debit card.  And even then, it can take up to three days for the money to show up back in your account.  Many of the systems out there today are archaic and outdated.  Some are not equipped to credit back the debit card and return cash instead.  The store I manage has a system where we bypass the pin and treat the return as a credit return.  As far as the difference in the tax, god alone only knows why the registers do what they do.  I had a situation where the difference was 53 cents. The register wasnt cooperating, so I reached into my pocket, handed the customer the 53 cents,smiled and wished her a good day. :)
Ive found that letters to the CEO can be really helpful.  Nextel gave me 3 months free service after i complained to their CEO.

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RE: my rant to walmart - 7/17/2007 10:22:59 PM   
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not quite sure what happend with the link but heres another http://boycottwalmart.meetup.com/26/?track=i3/mu_y27o0d9czk

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