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MsPleasure -> Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:34:36 PM)

Submissive!   When did a "submissive"  think it was ok to try and dictate to the MISTRESS!!!   Ive had messages from a lot of submissives that are true Switches.   After reading my profile I expect you to follow my commands and demands as given.    Where is that kind of sub?



SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:36:38 PM)

after reading your profile, you expect them to follow all orders you give them?

i suspect youre gonna be ranting a lot....but good luck with that.......



KatyLied -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:38:45 PM)

It's funny, and so disrespectful of subs/slaves not to give an automatic knee drop to every dominant along the way.  If only they  understood their place in the universe.  sigh.



shyinini -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:43:27 PM)

I came at this subject (posted) in a slightly different, yet skewed angle and I was bombashed ............ lets see what happens here !!
 
Sir's sweetheart



earthycouple -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:47:59 PM)

Um....OP, you've had some good posts and seemed to really be getting it...what happened?  How can you expect anyone to fall at your feet with an email?  Let's try to be real people here, shall we?



MasterLebeaux -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:48:32 PM)

MsPleasure,

Expect a lot of dissapointment and frustration - especially with the attitude You're taking on the matter. While, yes, hardheadedness in a submissive is an undesireable trait, I might recommend that You look into the cause of what they are being hard-headed about and see what kind of solutions can be reached. If You're wanting a doormat and a doggie to obey Your every whim, then look for those type of people. However, from what I have found, even the submissives of CM are individual people who are looking for not just any Dom/me but the *right* Dom/me for them.

Hell, I've been turned down by several subs. I just shrug and go on about My life. Nothing to get all hot and bothered about.

Just a suggestion,
~Master LeBeaux



MsPleasure -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:49:59 PM)

I was being honest on my profile.  Ive also had a few great subs.  Im just looking for the one that can handle what I want on a regular basis.   



Rover -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:51:37 PM)

When speaking about submission I often use a light switch as a contrast, in that submission is not like a light switch that is instantly turned on or off.  It's more like a dimmer switch that has an infinite number of gradients.
 
To expect instant and complete submission is to expect the (near) impossible.  That's why some Dominants allow for the passage of a considerable period of time before collaring a submissive/slave.  It's not that they're procrastinators.  It's during that passage of time that a relationship develops, grows and evolves and their submissive's/slave's submission develops, grows and evolves as well.  It's only after they have achieved a desired level of submission that they're collared, and not beforehand.  Because it's the achievement of that submission that constitutes ownership in the way that they understand it to be.
 
Just some food for thought.
 
John



Caius -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:51:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsPleasure

Where is that kind of sub?



There's a a queue of them over by the machine that dispenses free hundred-dollar bills to anyone who has decided to refer to themselves as dominant.  There are mirrors so you can admire yourself while you're at it.



MasterLebeaux -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:55:06 PM)

Well said, Rover, very damned well said



MasterFireMaam -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:56:16 PM)

You profile gives the impression that you are looking for play partners only. There's nothing there about the ways in which you're prepared to create and maintain a realistic, long term relationship. So, I'm betting that's why you're getting the wankers. Try being more yourself rather than a role.

Master Fire



MsPleasure -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:56:49 PM)

I get it.   Im talking about the ones that you actually have a conversation with, interview etc.  They agree with what you like and then can't follow or don't follow through...



Rover -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 5:58:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Caius

There's a a queue of them over by the machine that dispenses free hundred-dollar bills to anyone who has decided to refer to themselves as dominant.  There are mirrors so you can admire yourself while you're at it.


I have plenty of full length mirrors in order to admire my magnificent self, and employ a sizeable number of sycophants to inflate my ego.  But those free hundred dollar bills could come in handy from time to time.  Where did you say that machine was located?
 
John



MsPleasure -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 6:01:00 PM)

My subs have been in high profile positions.  No doormats or doggies.  Some just forget we arent in the office.....when it comes to the two of us.



Caius -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 6:03:26 PM)

It's just inside the "TRUE dominant's" lounge.  Check your sense of reality at the door. ;)



MasterLebeaux -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 6:05:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsPleasure

My subs have been in high profile positions.  No doormats or doggies.  Some just forget we arent in the office.....when it comes to the two of us.


After reading your profile, Ms, I'm reminded of many petulant and demanding children that throw tantrums to get what the want, how they want it and, of course, they want it right now. (For any of Y/you who have kids, Y/you know what I'm talking about)

I digress... Try easing off the Dominate throttle a bit and for God's sake be a real person with *real* expectations. Keep in mind, too, that Your subs are real people too.

Best Regards,
~Master LeBeaux



MsPleasure -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 6:08:51 PM)

Thats why I love collarme.   Some of it is bashing and some is actually constructive criticism.   Theres no perfect Dom/Dommes or Subs I realize that.  When you are new and learning  it is a role as I become more experienced  it will feel more like my lifestyle. 



shyinini -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 6:21:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

When speaking about submission I often use a light switch as a contrast, in that submission is not like a light switch that is instantly turned on or off.  It's more like a dimmer switch that has an infinite number of gradients.
 
To expect instant and complete submission is to expect the (near) impossible.  That's why some Dominants allow for the passage of a considerable period of time before collaring a submissive/slave.  It's not that they're procrastinators.  It's during that passage of time that a relationship develops, grows and evolves and their submissive's/slave's submission develops, grows and evolves as well.  It's only after they have achieved a desired level of submission that they're collared, and not beforehand.  Because it's the achievement of that submission that constitutes ownership in the way that they understand it to be.
 
Just some food for thought.
 
John


This is an AWESOME ANALOGY !!
 
Sir's sweetheart



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 7:32:25 PM)

Relax..and try to find the balance of Mistress and person within yourself..do not let Mistress overtake all other components of who you are...Tempting



octavia -> RE: Hard Headed and you say your a ...... (7/15/2007 8:06:15 PM)

Someone around here sports a siggy that sums up the point I think you are trying to make:
something to the effect,  " I said i was a submissive.. not a good submissive."  Not an exact quote prolly but you get the point.[;)]

I don't think that is always what the issue is however, some of us, do have submissive urges and desires, but not to all people.  I don't feel the need to act submissivly towards the general population.  Interestingly, it is those that bring that feeling out in me, that I tend to follow around like a lost puppy.  I pretty much snarl at everyone else.  [8D]


Ps.  Is there a sign up sheet for the Rover fan club somewhere? [;)]



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