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LadyEllen -> London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 8:48:22 AM)

This just popped into my inbox on the office email. I checked it out on Google and it turns out the story was in the papers last year - first I heard of it, but then I dont read the papers.

Interesting stuff, and enough to drive one crazy. According to some of the newspaper references, this project is tied in with less than honourable Muslim groups....


>I don't know if you have heard about this but Ken Livingstone is apparently
>planning to use  tax payer's money to build an enormous mosque costing an
>estimated £100M  in the docklands, London.
>
>Wouldn't it be better to spend the money on a new hospital or improved
>transport facilities, surely anything but such a scheme as this.
>
>The mosque will apparently be BIGGER THAN ST PAUL'S.!
>
>The plan is for the mosque to be so big that people flying in from all over
>the world for the 2012 Olympics will see it as the biggest landmark in
>London, bigger than St Paul's, Westminster Abbey or Wembley Stadium.
>
>The vote so far is 56 % in favour, as the Muslim community in the UK is
>casting it's vote in droves, and as usual the British are burying their
>heads in the sand.
>
>It is an undemocratic use of British Tax payers money, especially when our
>Churches that are 100's of years old get no government funding to keep
>their
>structures standing, and we are supposedly a Christian Nation.
>
>To vote to "Scrap the 'Mega-Mosque"  please sign the official Government
>petition in the link below.
>
>  <http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ScrapMegaMosque/>
>http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ScrapMegaMosque/
>
>Please, after voting, forward this to as many people as you can.



farglebargle -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 8:50:12 AM)

You'd prefer maybe Peter Stringfellow got the money instead?

My english there was somewhat, as you say, inelegant.

Perhaps it *would* be a better use in the war against fundie nuts!




LadyEllen -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 8:52:30 AM)

I'd prefer that I got the money.

To build a huge Asatru temple slap bang in the middle of England.

And from there, plan the overthrow of the Christian Church.

E



philosophy -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 8:54:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

>
>It is an undemocratic use of British Tax payers money, especially when our
>Churches that are 100's of years old get no government funding to keep
>their
>structures standing, and we are supposedly a Christian Nation.
>


..........what tax breaks does the COE get? How many Bishops get seats in the House of Lords? How many Imans?
It is disingenuous to suggest that the COE does not get any help from government in the UK. Perhaps it is more truthful to suggest that the help it does get has been around for so long that they have ceased to appreciate or even notice it.
All Ken Livingstone is doing is levelling the playing field.



LadyEllen -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 9:02:20 AM)

I agree Philosophy - the CoE gets far too big an influence over life here, but I dont see the way forward being to level the playing field in any direction but downwards for all. Remove the bishops from the Lords immediately, and lets stop pretending we are a Christian nation - with what? 5% attending church? And with I'd guess, at least 90% of the supposed Christian population unable to recount any part of the Bible let alone quote it.

If people want to practise religion, thats fine. But not on my taxes.

E



philosophy -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 9:23:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I agree Philosophy - the CoE gets far too big an influence over life here, but I dont see the way forward being to level the playing field in any direction but downwards for all. Remove the bishops from the Lords immediately, and lets stop pretending we are a Christian nation - with what? 5% attending church? And with I'd guess, at least 90% of the supposed Christian population unable to recount any part of the Bible let alone quote it.

If people want to practise religion, thats fine. But not on my taxes.

E


....i tend to agree LE, but in the absence of disestablishing the COE then it is only fair to subsidise other religions. The petition calls the decision 'undemocratic'......and then goes on to assert that the UK is 'a christian nation'. It also clearly implies that christian churches get no benefits, which we both know to be manifestly untrue. As it is such a flawed petition, i will not be signing it.



pahunkboy -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 9:25:15 AM)

we have both a mosque and a temple here in Sunbury PA. to my knowledge they were never desecrated. we did have a rash of church breakins- thefts.

the leader of one of the 2 listed- is in trouble for commingly funds.

i wont say which one. as both groups=- need to try harder to get along in the larger world.



LadyEllen -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 10:02:34 AM)

I havent signed it either Philosophy - for the same reason.

But going along with your point, I need to ask where my millions are for building the Asatru temple I spoke of? Latest estimates I heard were along the line of 50,000+ people in the UK who describe themselves as Asatruar, so surely we need that money too as our share of the pie? Especially since the Church stole most of what belonged to the religion in the first place.

Mind you, we then have to consider the Jedi temple too - seeing as how so many hundreds of thousands wrote "Jedi" as their religion on the census forms.

E



Raechard -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 12:23:02 PM)

Can I play bingo there maybe catch a movie?



dragone -> RE: London "mega Mosque" paid for by taxpayers! (7/9/2007 1:05:04 PM)

Hey all; www.burjdubai.com  do the research, check out the other related arab sites, check the saudi sites. Just criise around the arabias. None of this should be any surprise to you. This Mosque...chicken feed.



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