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Charges Dropped against Illegals in Hazleton Murder - 7/7/2007 8:32:23 AM   
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I find this amusing because this case has been a favorite of right-wing wackos like O'Reilly and Dobbs.  The prosecutors say they aren't convinced of the former suspects' innocence, but frankly...they never admit that they got the wrong man.  How many Dateline NBC stories have you seen where the prosecutor, when presented with evidence decisively exonerates an individual, insist that the person is guilty?  It's the old police sop of "I'm letting you go with just a warning."  Translation: I've got nothing on you.


Hazleton immigrants' charges fall
From the Associated Press
July 7, 2007

ALLENTOWN, PA. — Hazleton Mayor Lou Barletta has repeatedly cited a May 2006 slaying as the impetus for one of the nation's strictest community crackdowns on illegal immigrants.

But on Friday, prosecutors dropped homicide charges against the two illegal immigrants accused of shooting 29-year-old Derek Kichline.

The Illegal Immigration Relief Act, proposed by Barletta and approved by the City Council last summer, would penalize landlords who rent to illegal immigrants and businesses that hire them. It has been stayed pending court action.

Barletta's critics pointed to the dropped charges as evidence that he jumped to conclusions when he said illegal immigrants were wrecking his city.

"This dismissal of charges adds to the long list of discredited claims Barletta has made in the course of demonizing undocumented immigrants," said Witold J. Walczak, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania.

Barletta called Walczak's statement "repulsive."

"Derek Kichline's family and friends will never see justice for his death," Barletta said. "The fact that the ACLU celebrates this and turns it into a public relations spectacle is disgusting."

Prosecutors said they dropped the charges because key witnesses were unreliable or unavailable, not because they were convinced the suspects were innocent. The two are to remain jailed until their deportation to the Dominican Republic

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-hazleton7jul07,1,2766698.story?coll=la-headlines-nation&ctrack=2&cset=true
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RE: Charges Dropped against Illegals in Hazleton Murder - 7/7/2007 11:17:45 AM   
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Pretty sad that state and local governments have to do the job that the feds should be doing. By allowing anyone in this country without knowing who they are or where they came from just because they fill the need for slave labor, our government is effectively allowing an invasion to take place. And in my opinion, if the feds won't protect the homeland, the states should be allowed to do it.

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RE: Charges Dropped against Illegals in Hazleton Murder - 7/7/2007 2:16:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Pretty sad that state and local governments have to do the job that the feds should be doing. By allowing anyone in this country without knowing who they are or where they came from just because they fill the need for slave labor, our government is effectively allowing an invasion to take place. And in my opinion, if the feds won't protect the homeland, the states should be allowed to do it.


cyberdude611:
I am a little unclear as to the thrust of your post.  While we both agree that the feds should control the boarder and that the undocumented worker is being used as slave labor.  You seem to be saying that it is ok for undocumented laborers to be wrongly charged with murder and that a technicality like no evidence is not relevant.  If  I have mis characterized your position please disabuse me of this perception.
I do not see what stops the municipality from enforcing existing laws.  What I do see is a mayor who is trying to get "face time" with a hot button issue.  You do know that the asset forfeiture laws are not just for drug dealers.  Bring local charges against the employers and confiscate the proceeds of their ill gotten gains....but then it would not get the mayor as much publicity as ranting about illegal aliens getting off with murder.
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RE: Charges Dropped against Illegals in Hazleton Murder - 7/7/2007 3:08:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Pretty sad that state and local governments have to do the job that the feds should be doing. By allowing anyone in this country without knowing who they are or where they came from just because they fill the need for slave labor, our government is effectively allowing an invasion to take place. And in my opinion, if the feds won't protect the homeland, the states should be allowed to do it.


The States are allowed to do it.
Robbing a bank is a Federal crime but who responds to bank robbery crimes?
Usually the FBI might "send someone" an hour or two after the fact or maybe the next day to see any evidence or video surveilance tapes.

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RE: Charges Dropped against Illegals in Hazleton Murder - 7/7/2007 3:32:46 PM   
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quote:

The prosecutors say they aren't convinced of the former suspects' innocence, but frankly...they never admit that they got the wrong man. How many Dateline NBC stories have you seen where the prosecutor, when presented with evidence decisively exonerates an individual, insist that the person is guilty?

There is a difference between having evidence that exonerates a defendant, and having evidence dsappear when a key witness get deported and another's testimony is limited. Try getting your facts straight before jumping to half-assed conclusions: Report from the local paper

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RE: Charges Dropped against Illegals in Hazleton Murder - 7/9/2007 8:25:06 AM   
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Thank you for the link to the local paper, happypervert.  This case is far from being over, since there is no statue of limitations on homicide.  If charges are refiled then the US has extradition power over the two suspects.

"Charges dropped in Hazelton homicide"

Accused of shooting Hazleton man, illegal immigrants stay jailed during deportation process. Homicide case hit with setbacks.

By David Weiss
Court Reporter

Monday, July 9, 2007  8:13 A.M.

WILKES-BARRE – One witness was deported. Another changed her story. And a third would have had her testimony limited.

That combination of setbacks led to Luzerne County prosecutors on Friday dropping homicide charges against two illegal immigrants accused of gunning down a Hazleton man last year.

Pedro Cabrera and Joan Romero were charged in the May 10, 2006, shooting death of Derek Kichline outside his East Chestnut Street home. Police said the two 24-year-olds approached Kichline and shot him once in the head.

But since the duo’s arrest, the prosecution’s case imploded.

On Friday, assistant district attorneys Mike Vough and Gene Molino told Court of Common Pleas Judge Peter Paul Olszewski Jr. the setbacks would prevent them from prosecuting the men.

“We cannot go forward with the charges,” Vough said.

But because prosecutors dropped the charges, they can refile them if new evidence is uncovered in the future, Vough said. There is no statute of limitations on homicide charges.

In the meantime, Cabrera and Romero will remain jailed at the Luzerne County Correctional Facility until they begin the deportation process, Vough said.
The problems for prosecutors started shortly after the arrest.

One witness, Sara Hittinger, once said that her then-boyfriend, Romero, told her that he and Cabrera shot a man. But Hittinger later wavered from that statement and refused to cooperate with police.

A problem also developed with some eyewitness’ testimony.

Kichline’s girlfriend, Tammy Gombert, was interviewed by police after the shooting. She told them she did not see the faces of the men who approached and shot Kichline.

Cabrera and Romero were still charged and appointed attorneys. Then, one day before their preliminary hearing, police showed Gombert a photo array. But the defense attorneys were not present, making it a violation of their constitutional right to counsel, the attorneys said.

On the day of the preliminary hearing, Gombert testified and identified Cabrera and Romero as the men who approached Kichline.

Defense attorneys believed the photo array was suggestive and tainted the identification so severely that they asked a judge to stop prosecutors from using any such identification at trial.

Before a judge could rule, the parties cut a deal that allowed Gombert to identify the shooters only as dark-skinned men and detail what they were wearing when they approached Kichline.

Then a key witness was inadvertently deported.
 
The witness, Cesar Ariel Jacquez, was supposed to testify that minutes after Kichline was shot, Cabrera and Romero entered an apartment a few blocks from the shooting and threw a handgun down on a futon. Jacquez later shot himself accidentally with that gun.

He was taken into custody by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials and detained to be deported.
 
Vough said local officials were in touch with ICE officials to ensure they held Jacquez in the U.S. until after he testified in the homicide case.
 
But Jacquez was inadvertently deported to the Dominican Republic.
 
Vough said he and other investigators went to the Dominican Republic in June and located Jacquez. But they have no subpoena power and were unable to force Jacquez to return and testify. He would have had to voluntarily return. He refused, Vough said.
 
“He informed us he did not want to testify in this case,” Vough told Olszewski.
Vough said Jacquez also changed his story about what occurred on the night of the shooting.
 
Without Jacquez, prosecutors would not have been able to use the suspected murder weapon at trial, Vough said. Jacquez allowed police to enter the apartment and search it. That’s when police found the gun.
 
But defense attorneys were also challenging Jacquez’s consent to the police search, and prosecutors needed him to testify that he did allow police inside the apartment.
Olszewski wanted to know how a witness as important as Jacquez could be inadvertently deported.
 
Vough said an apparent miscommunication by local and ICE officials led to the deportation. But he was not given a specific reason why it occurred.

“I’ve asked the same question,” Vough said. “I have yet to get an answer.”

Prosecutors had until Friday to take the men to trial under the state’s speedy trial law. Being unable to get to trial after working on the case for a year to try to bring Kichline’s family justice bothered Vough.

“It’s very frustrating,” he said.

A Romero attorney, Joseph Cosgrove, said he and attorney Michael Senape fought for a year to have the charges tossed because police did not have sufficient evidence to show Cabrera and Romero were the triggermen.

“With this dismissal, justice is well-served,” Cosgrove said.

But will the dismissal appear that the men got away with murder?

A Cabrera attorney, William Ruzzo, didn’t think so.

If there was evidence to show the two men were the killers, prosecutors would be taking the men to trial instead of dropping the charges, said Ruzzo, who defended Cabrera with attorney Cheryl Sobeski-Reedy.

Cosgrove and Olszewski still commended Vough for his candor and honesty throughout the case.

And Vough’s boss, District Attorney David Lupas, said Vough and other investigators in the case deserved commendation for their work, especially going to the Dominican Republic to find Jacquez.

“They really didn’t leave any stones unturned,” he said.

Prosecutors, Lupas said, could only rely on evidence they gather to prosecute a case. In this case, the bad breaks, especially the wavering witnesses, left them without enough evidence.

“Unfortunately, we don’t manufacture evidence,” he said. “We don’t make up evidence.”

If charges are refiled, prosecutors would have extradition power to return Cabrera and Romero to the U.S. to face the charges, Vough said.

http://www.timesleader.com/news/20070707_07tossed_dw_1a_ART.html


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RE: Charges Dropped against Illegals in Hazleton Murder - 7/9/2007 8:41:40 AM   
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Hazleton is an hour from here.  I dont worry about jobs being taken here- as they mostly have moved off shore. I DO worrry about gangs.

One thing about the town.  At one time it was just another small town. In the past 20 years the eastern tip of the state has had record growth. Mostly folks from NYC, and NJ. Anyhow- a good many of them DEMANDED the services and infastructure that they fled from. So- as a result - taxes went thru the roof. Many old timers had to move as they could not afford homes they lived theier whole life.

Seeing this- my region has a 20 year plan. We expect growth- but we will control it.

Hazelton was never a sparkling gem of the region- in fact- it sits way up on a hill- route 93 is treachurous as it always snows. abit of fog will decend and getting uphill is a sheet of ice. It always snows there.

No offence intended to the new comers- but if you left Jersey/New York- per costs and crime. Then you must learn from the locals of the town you move to. As to WHY they dont have such.  I am not homegrown- as I left Chicago for a better life here. So-What I learned is that I will always be an outsider. But I also learned to let the hicks teach me a thing or two.   After all- they had what a wanted- a quality piece of life. So learn from me.

Pennsylvania is a special place. It has deep history. Only Florida has more elderly per capita!  You can tell a place by how they treat their weak.

I have reached out to my nieghbors- we will watch eacothers back. SO even if my town goes to the gangs. my street will stand as 1.

God Bless my home.

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