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SimplyMichael -> Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 5:46:56 PM)

Hold on I am on a rant! If someone says "most blonds are stupid" the fact that you are blond does not mean that he called you stupid. That the fact that you are blond and smart means also doesn't mean ALL blonds are smart. I chose blonds out of thin air but I just finished reading a thread where people were talking about how young adults are MOSTLY immature and not experienced enough to do certain things. Again, MOSTLY means that the fact that YOU just turned 18 and either:

  • Are mature yourself doesn't negate the fact that MOST aren't.
  • Think you are mature and don't yet have the experience to realize you don't know shit.


So, for the record, when someone is making a point about something and says any of the following:

  • Most
  • Many
  • Generally
  • Often
  • Usually
  • Occasionally
  • Frequently
  • Probably


They are NOT attacking YOU they are speaking of a general principle. Like saying in the middle of summer it is often hot. The fact that you might get a cool day does not negate the fact that summer is probably hot.

Not everything is about you, exceptions are just that exceptions. If you are one but can't show that almost everything is the same as you and that in fact the person was wrong to use MOST (or its derivatives) by showing that they instead should have said FEW, then try and remember that when you respond. Perhaps as follows:

Interesting post about why MOST do X. I don't know anyone else as a frame of reference so I don't know how true the statement is but I DO do X.

OR

Interesting post about why MOST do X. All the people I know in my BDSM community which is Large/Medium/Small DOES do X so I am not sure your premise is true.

OR

My gut doesn't believe you that MOST do X but I have little to go on. Can you provide more evidence to back up your claim.

NEVER POST THIS!

I live in an isolated research station in Antarctica and nobody I know wears shorts outside so you are wrong when you say many people wear shorts outside...



kyraofMists -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 5:49:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
Not everything is about you,


Damn...  that just screws up everything

You are sure about this, cause I was sure that it was all about me...  *w*

Knight's Kyra



MsLisa -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 5:52:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Not everything is about you,


Yes, yes it is. I am the world, y'all revolve around me :wink:

I couldn't resist and I believe most people couldn't either if they had my sense of humor....



Trampler -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 6:05:54 PM)

basically, alot of people read what they want to read in things. Or sometimes certain words will hit them in a certain way.  And not to forget their particular moods and perceptions that day.

**I like your new pic, SimplyMichael, sexy**



junecleaver -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 6:07:29 PM)

Hey!  I'm blonde and I'm young!  Definitely sure you were talking about me now.... I think that 'exceptions' just get tired of being treated like they are not and perhaps -over the internet- do not choose to express that in the wisest of ways?



Lordandmaster -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 6:14:37 PM)

I think rants about generalizations suck.

Yeah, yeah, just being facetious.



ExSteelAgain -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 6:48:30 PM)

Those bullet headings could be considered a direct attack, especially the dot ones, but correct me if I'm wrong. Why would you consider in such a derogatorry manner those who have such relationships where generalizations are used? You can only answer in 5 lines or less.



philosophy -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 7:01:23 PM)

...all generalisations are wrong?.....[:)]



ExSteelAgain -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 7:20:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

Those bullet headings could be considered a direct attack, especially the dot ones, but correct me if I'm wrong. Why would you consider in such a derogatorry manner those who have such relationships where generalizations are used? You can only answer in 5 lines or less.


Damn...surprised to see the post moved over here, Michael. I hope you realize I was agreeing with you in a sarcastic way.



Gauge -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 8:27:23 PM)

Michael, as ideal as this would seem you will never get everyone to pull their head out of their ass. All people should lighten up. We all must understand that everything that is said on the boards is always right. All of us should know by now that generalizations mean what they say. Everyone should get a life.

Wait... should I have been speaking more generally?



Vendaval -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 9:43:57 PM)

Come on now Michael, tell us how you really feel!?  [8D]



NControlofU -> RE: Mostly a Rant on Generalizations (6/26/2007 10:11:05 PM)

 
All generalizations are dangerous, even this one.
-- Alexandre Dumas





 
(From an 8th grade language arts textbook)
 
Making Generalizations


A generalization is a broad statement about a particular subject, a statement that may be based on a number of facts or observations about the subject.  For example, if you study surveys or reports about the world’s climate, you might make the generalization that “The planet is getting warmer.”  To make good generalizations, be sure to review all the available evidence.  However, avoid making generalizations that are too broad; these may be invalid or false.  Words such as “all” "most" or “none”, etc. often signal generalizations that are too broad.


Hasty Generalizations
 
Fallacy of Insufficient Statistics, Fallacy of Insufficient Sample, Leaping to A Conclusion, Hasty Induction.

This fallacy is committed when a person draws a conclusion about a population based on a sample that is not large enough.

Hasty Generalization is committed when the sample (the observed instances) is too small.  It is important to have samples that are large enough when making a generalization.

People often commit Hasty Generalizations because of bias or prejudice.
 
 
All generalizations are dangerous, even this one.

-- Alexandre Dumas



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