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Honor - 6/24/2007 2:29:42 PM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		Define the meaning of honor in a D/s relationship.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 2:44:17 PM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		I hold him in the highest regard, respecting and obeying him, loving and adoring him, and living in complete devotion to him.  I live in a way that is true to myself, which he can count and rely on.  He knows what to expect from me, and knows at whatever time of any day, I will do what he requests of me, eagerly, happily, and gratefully.

I kiss his feet in reverence, and worship him as my Master.  I speak well of him as there is no other way for me to speak of him, and I express my thanks to him for owning me, for leading me as he does, and for bringing me to this place I now find myself. 

I honor him by being the best possible slave I can be to him, and by being exactly what he wants in a slave.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 3:10:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is defined the same way it is defined in any other relationship.  The concept of honor is independent of a relationship structure.  The acts that are deemed honorable will vary based on ones own personal ethical code.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 3:38:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow...Great topic MHOO! The Honor that is me, that I offer to my submissive is a very clear understanding of who he is, what makes him tick, and a vow and commitment not to break that. We both know I can encourage him to push his limits beyond the pale, but who returns to me may be damaged and hurt. I honor him by allowing him to serve me, I honor him by setting limits, by pushing limits, by encouraging him to grow...but grow at a pace that works for him. I honor him by understanding him deep at his core, and sometimes I honor him by taking full advantage of that. I honor him by giving him silence when that will serve him best, and I honor him by speaking what he would rather not hear. To me, summed up, HONOR is a way of life, to respect the exchange of power flowing between you, a loving bond to keep one another safe, to be trusted and trustworthy. Honor is everything that makes him safe with me.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 4:41:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honor, to me is the code of conduct that is the very basis for a D's relationship. It includes, honesty, mutual respect, and caring between the participants, whether Dominant or Submissive. As a submissive it is also means the privillege of being able to serve my Dominant when others are denied.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 4:55:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ma`am, simply put honour is both my word and my bond. If i make a promise, then its kept. If i answer a question, then the reply is truthfull.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 5:35:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314

Define the meaning of honor in a D/s relationship.

I do not limit the definition of honor to relationships of any kind; I apply it to people and their actions in everyday life. Doing what is right; no matter the personal cost; is what defines honor for me.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 7:49:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honor is the usual: honesty, integrity and sincerity. However honor is not a false principle that you protect by acting out in thoughtless, bravado ways. In other words, don’t be ready jump in her face and say, “Ya dissed me.”

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 8:00:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honor is not specifically honesty, integrity, etc.... Honor is what keeps you honest and gives you integrity. It is your own personal code of conduct. It is why you do what you say you will, and give truthful answers.
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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 8:01:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MHOO314
Define the meaning of honor in a D/s relationship.


Respect, understanding and respecting your place in a relationship; not crossing lines that are there. In my lreationship, ew are bound to eachother by honor and respect. Its truth, its just, its real and its groomed to be more if that is how the Universe and the Fates and Destiny decide, in the meantime we work at it.
 
I 'honour' MJ by NOT doing things that would jeopardize our relationship, by remaining loyal and faithfull and by remembering what we have been through and what our relationship means.
 
D/s relationships are not all that different from vanilla ones as far as honour goes, I think we put more emphasis on it, since so many seem to be so dishonourable and disrespectfull.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 8:07:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honor: Feelings of, or the act of showing, high respect. Both the Master and the slave must have and show honor to the tenants of the relationship, each other and their personal integrity.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 8:46:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honor is honor regardless of the venue or relationship.  Honor is honesty, integrity, courage to follow your convictions, reliability and comitment.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 8:51:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honor for us is trust, honesty, respect and regard for ourselves and others. It is the same to me as it would be in any other relationship.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 9:06:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know there are some people I feel honored just to know. So in D/s it would give me a feeling of great privilege, and perhaps pride in being selected to serve someone I had great reverance for. In honoring you, I would hope to provide exemplary service, beyond your expectations, along with worshipful adoration.

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RE: Honor - 6/24/2007 11:24:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		in my Master and i's opinion Honor is Honor always. It is doing what is right even when no one is watching. Ppeople hide and lie about what Tthey do and say because Tthey are ashamed. Tthey are ashamed because they feel what Tthey did or said was wrong or untruthful. If a Pperson has Honor then Tthey do and say what is right and truthful always and thus have no reason to feel ashamed. That’s Honor. This is the opinion of my Master, TheOneOnlyPeter, and i.

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RE: Honor - 6/25/2007 12:42:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Within a BDSM relationship, to me it's respecting limits, and taking care of the other person.  My Dom knows what I can take, and when to stop - I've never used my safeword, but I know it's available to me if I felt I needed to.  He encourages me to try new things but doesn't force me into anything until I'm ready. 

I show respect to him, I trust his judgement.  Honour means you stay exclusive (if that's what you promised), and to keep your other promises too.

I try, at all times, to be the best I can - to behave exactly the way he wants, to please him, to push my personal limits a little each time, to be what he wants me to be.  And he does the same for me, he's responsive to my needs, he monitors my condition when we play.

And honour, in any situation, is to act to the highest standards, to be able to feel proud of yourself, to know that you've acted well in any situation.

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RE: Honor - 6/25/2007 1:18:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honor is a word.  It means different things to different people.  Alot of what people have said here I agree with, and I can understand their viewpoint on it. 

I think it comes down to ethics......and how ethical you want to be.....

A person with honor does things because its the right thing to do, not because the actions are easy or because they expect to be rewarded....

Personally I don't like to lie for any reason, so I don't.....if you ask me my opinion about something, I'm as honest in my response as possible.  I say what I am thinking.  I might change my mind or want to add thoughts about it later, but I do my best not to omit pertinant information to the question....on very rare occasions I will deviate from this......not because I want to be dishonest but sometimes people ask things that its really none of their business or I have already agreed I won't talk about so they hit a taboo topic......

I also don't like to gossip (speak bad of others), so I do my best to not talk bad about others behind their backs....
I will critize if its something that a person can change, but if its more physical and harder to change, I will do my best to not even mention it.......I once told a guy about how he had a unibrow and how he should shave it so he seperated his two eyebrows. It bothered me.  He came back later, and he actually looked 10 times better....and when he asked if it was better, I told him it was alot better.....my thinking on this is that often people don't realize, and if you bring it to their attention and its a simple thing to do, then it would behoove them to do the simple thing, especially when it comes to improving your overall looks......

If you agree to do something, if you have honor you will do your best to do as you have stated unless there are new circumstances that give reason not to (and these should be brought up to the parties involved before your requred action you said you would if at all possible). 

I think there are 7 virtures ( remember this from ultima video game), and honor was one of them.....

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RE: Honor - 6/25/2007 5:25:48 AM   
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 For me
Integrity:
 is telling yourself the truth.
 
Honor:
 is telling the truth to others.


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RE: Honor - 6/25/2007 6:47:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honor is being honest and truthful with yourself and with one's master/Dom. If a person can not be this with themselves, then they can't be truthful and honest with anyone else.

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RE: Honor - 6/27/2007 5:11:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Terms such as "honor" are tossed around so carelessly in BDSM forums that they cease to have any value beyond that of a slogan (terms such as "communication","trust", etc. can be added to this lengthy list).  People seem to cling to those slogans as if doing so will cause the BDSM gods to descend upon them like the Holy Spirit to imbue them with those qualities. 
 
Lifestylers are just a bunch of average folks, in all their glorious imperfections.  No more honorable, communicative, trustworthy, etc. than your "average" vanilla, gay, or any other lifestyle version you can think of.  Bottom line... we're just not that special.
 
Personally, I'm comfortable being an average Joe.  I have no need to feel "special" (as if riding the special bus was not enough for me).  My ego needs no stroking (there are more gratifying places to stroke).  There's no need for me to create fictional elaborations that creep into my reality.  I believe (yeah, that means this is my opinion) that it diminishes BDSM to portray such fantasies as reality.
 
Honor in a D/s relationship?  There is no such thing.  As has been mentioned previously, honor only exists in individual people.  And as such, they exhibit that quality of their personal honor in their relationships regardless of what relationship dynamic may exist.
 
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