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Islam

Islam is misrepresented by the American media, generally

30% (14)

Islam is represented accurately by the American media, generally

10% (5)

I have a favorable view of Islam, generally

19% (9)

I have a negative view of Islam, generally

39% (18)

Total Votes : 46

(last vote on : 8/12/2007 2:24:57 AM)
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RE: Islam - 6/25/2007 10:05:07 PM

Mikal

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You have said it best as it can be said.
Some people are good, some are bad, and some need to be terminated for the good of the masses if they can not see the light.

I'm not sure that's what Mikal was saying, but I could be wrong.....

You weren't wrong Level... I wasn't saying that people were good/bad/exterminatable. Simply that the modern Bible is not as accurate as most would like to believe/preach. I do not believe that people need to 'see the light' in order to be deemed worthy of continuing life. If I'm not mistaken, there is/was another thread for those who wished to discuss the death penalty & those who deserve it... and I don't think that you (Level) are asking about ending the lives of people who follow a particular belief system.

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 2:28:07 AM

Level

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ORIGINAL: Mikal

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You have said it best as it can be said.
Some people are good, some are bad, and some need to be terminated for the good of the masses if they can not see the light.

I'm not sure that's what Mikal was saying, but I could be wrong.....

You weren't wrong Level... I wasn't saying that people were good/bad/exterminatable. Simply that the modern Bible is not as accurate as most would like to believe/preach. I do not believe that people need to 'see the light' in order to be deemed worthy of continuing life. If I'm not mistaken, there is/was another thread for those who wished to discuss the death penalty & those who deserve it... and I don't think that you (Level) are asking about ending the lives of people who follow a particular belief system.

And you are correct, too . I don't believe in the death penalty, for anyone.

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 5:18:58 AM

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God thinks all blacks are obsolete farm equipment
God thinks the Jews killed his son and must be punished
God thinks the white man is Satan
God, they know what God thinks

God thinks we should all convert to Judaism
God thinks we must all be Christians and
God thinks we should all embrace Islam
God thinks the only true religion is Hinduism

And I
I know what God thinks
God thinks you're a waste of flesh
God prefers an Atheist

God thinks all people like you are hateful
God thinks all people like you are an embarassment to creation
self-righteous, judgemental, first to throw the stone
and use His name for your own protection

God thinks the sun revolves around the Earth
God thinks there was something very wrong with Copernicus
God thinks abortion is murder and
God thinks everything that science gave us is wrong
God thinks women deserve it
God thinks AIDS is a form of punishment

I hate people who blame the Devil for their own shortcomings and
I hate people who thank God when things go right

And I
I know what God thinks
God thinks you're an idiot
God prefers a heretic

God God
God thinks all people like you are hateful
God thinks all people like you are an embarassment to creation
self-righteous, judgemental, first to throw the stone
and using His name for your own agenda

God is a liberal
God is a democrat
God wants you to vote republican
never trust a man who puts his words in the mouth of god
and says it's absolute truth
its lies and it smells like death
its all in a day's work taking money from the poor
Why do you think that God would need your dirty money
if he wanted to start a holy war?

self-righteous, judgemental, first to throw the stone
and using His name for your own protection

God thinks puppies need to die and
God thinks babies need to drown
'cause God is neither good nor bad
God is you and me
God is Everything

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 5:23:18 AM

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Islam is so misrepresented. I love my Islam brothers and sisters. Because of some bad apples- RACISM. all Islams get put in bad light.
http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/peace_in_islam/index.htm#religion_of_mercy

Mercy is the companion of peace in the salutation of Muslims.
The Messenger of Islam is a Mercy to the worlds.
And the slogan of Islam, repeated in every utterance and action is
"In The Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
The behaviour between the believers is one of patience and mercy:

‘Then he became one of those who believed and recommended one another to perseverance and patience, and (also) recommended one another to piety and compassion.’
(Surat-al-Balad (90), ayah 17)

The verses of the Qur’an and sayings and practices of Muhammad (PBUH.) exemplify the high position of love and mercy.
For example, the gates of paradise were opened, and Allah’s forgiveness and appreciation of Allah was bestowed upon a man who gave water to a dog overcome with thirst. Muslim and others narrate that Abu Hurairah (RA) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH.) said:
‘While a man was walking he became very thirsty due to the intense heat of the day. To his relief he found a well into which he quickly climbed down to get some water. After he had satisfied his thirst and come back out of the well he found a dog so thirsty that it was eating the earth in an attempt to quench its thirst. He said to himself: "Thirst has overwhelmed this dog to the same extent that it had done me." So he re-entered the well, filled his slipper and held it with his teeth until he got to the top of the well, where he immediately gave it to the dog to drink from. Allah (the exalted) thanked the man for what he had done and forgave him. One of the companions of the Prophet (PBUH.) said: "Is there reward to be gained from being compassionate to the animals?". The Prophet (PBUH.) said: "In every living being there is a reward to be gained"’

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 6:53:15 AM

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Greetings,

I see two questions here....

Firstly, regarding the media! Please answer this thread:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1004761/mpage_1/key_media/tm.htm#1004761

Secondly, regarding Muslims and Islam. There are people who said good things about Muslims and Islam in this thread. And I thank them so much, as I'm a Muslim.

I want to add.... Nothing is pure good or evil. Muslims aren't only in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran. There are places like Malaysia. But generally I admit.... we are living our dark ages now.

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 8:14:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Master96

Greetings,

I see two questions here....

Firstly, regarding the media! Please answer this thread:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1004761/mpage_1/key_media/tm.htm#1004761

Secondly, regarding Muslims and Islam. There are people who said good things about Muslims and Islam in this thread. And I thank them so much, as I'm a Muslim.

I want to add.... Nothing is pure good or evil. Muslims aren't only in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran. There are places like Malaysia. But generally I admit.... we are living our dark ages now.

Regarding living through your faith's dark ages? I'd actually buy that. And I guess you're entitled. If it wasn't for the muslims who saved so much of the early greek manuscripts, Europe's dark ages might have lasted a whole FUCK of a lot longer.

I have always found it amusing the jackasses who speak of the "filthy towelheads" and their expressions when I inform them of how those "towelheads" were the ones who reintroduced things like HYGIENE and MEDICAL SCIENCE to their ancestors back in the middle ages.

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 8:27:01 AM

Master96

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Thanks for your reply RazorJAK :)

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Understand that actions will always speak louder than words.

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Is it kind? Is it true? Is it necessary?
Does it improve upon the silence? - Sai Baba

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 8:35:24 AM

Gauge

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Guage, you're starting to really piss me off. If you must start speaking intelligently, I will have to start taking you seriously. I have to tell you that I just don't have that kind of time on my hands.

DarchChylde, I apologize. I will try not to speak like that ever again. Seriously.

Do you have a breath mint?

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 8:37:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: doxem

You have said it best as it can be said.
Some people are good, some are bad, and some need to be terminated for the good of the masses if they can not see the light.

Hitler said something similar.

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 3:07:54 PM

RazorJAK

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ORIGINAL: Gauge

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You have said it best as it can be said.
Some people are good, some are bad, and some need to be terminated for the good of the masses if they can not see the light.

Hitler said something similar.

Three pages to Godwin. I'm actually surprised it took that long.

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 3:12:23 PM

Gauge

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ORIGINAL: RazorJAK

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ORIGINAL: Gauge

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ORIGINAL: doxem

You have said it best as it can be said.
Some people are good, some are bad, and some need to be terminated for the good of the masses if they can not see the light.

Hitler said something similar.

Three pages to Godwin. I'm actually surprised it took that long.

Yeah, sorry about that... I didn't have a better illustration than that to make my point.

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RE: Islam - 6/26/2007 3:17:28 PM

RazorJAK

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Like I said, I'm truly surprised it took THIS long. After all, this is a subject that many people feel heated about.

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