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ownedgirlie -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 6:35:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ManInTheBox

Bottled water is completely retarded. I agree with Lewis Black, we used to have clean filtered tap water...but instead we stopped paying for that, so we could go out and buy water :D At least the tap water when it was cleaned was regulated by the town. God knows what the hell is in those bottles of water=/


I used to have a water distiller before I moved...so I made my own bottled water :)

When I was in the Bay Area (California), the water tasted horrid.  When it didn't taste metallic, it tasted like chlorine.  I also didn't feel like ingesting the flouride that is added to our tap water. 

The water tastes lousy where I live now, too.  I prefer my water not to have a flavor, so I buy it bottled.  I'm thinking of investing in a ceramic water dispenser though, and have water delivery.  Meanwhile, I've developed an affinity for extra strong coffee, or for putting vanilla extract in my coffee pot, to disguise the flavor that comes out of my tap.




Wildnfreehrt2004 -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 6:48:43 PM)

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They also claim that they have to go outside of the US to buy their recyclable plastic bags because Americans don't recycle enough (the only sites currently available to recycle the plastic grocery bags is at the grocery stores).
Why can't we see if Trex would reward schools for collecting the plastic garbage bags and set an entire nation of school children to collect them? They don't weigh much, they don't take up as much space as cans and bottles and we teach a critical recycling lesson.

Wildy

Also many cities participate in www.freecycle.org, a trading community to keep unwanted items with life still in them out of the landfills. Post the item you want to get rid of, someone will come pick it up, free of charge. Likewise, look for items you'd like to find before buying new.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 8:11:30 PM)

I wonder if they would ban all bottled waters in containers under say... One half US. Gallon?

Of course theses outlandisly priced 16, 20 and 32oz bottles ARE taxed by cities like San Francisco so somehow I doubt it.




Real0ne -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 8:43:15 PM)

yuck yuck!

lots of that water is not spring water, is not filtered etc.  but its big biz and yes people are exactly that dumb.

i never drink that, i have my filtering system for city water that takes literally every thing out and i fill up a few 5 gsallon buckets with ice cold fresh spring water when i drive past the creek.

awesome tetrahedral water.




ManInTheBox -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 8:54:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

quote:

ORIGINAL: ManInTheBox

Bottled water is completely retarded. I agree with Lewis Black, we used to have clean filtered tap water...but instead we stopped paying for that, so we could go out and buy water :D At least the tap water when it was cleaned was regulated by the town. God knows what the hell is in those bottles of water=/


I used to have a water distiller before I moved...so I made my own bottled water :)

When I was in the Bay Area (California), the water tasted horrid.  When it didn't taste metallic, it tasted like chlorine.  I also didn't feel like ingesting the flouride that is added to our tap water. 

The water tastes lousy where I live now, too.  I prefer my water not to have a flavor, so I buy it bottled.  I'm thinking of investing in a ceramic water dispenser though, and have water delivery.  Meanwhile, I've developed an affinity for extra strong coffee, or for putting vanilla extract in my coffee pot, to disguise the flavor that comes out of my tap.


I actually heard distilling water is also bad because there are nutrients and minerals in water that are good for you that are destroyed when you distill it. There's a site called like bottledwaterblues.com that tells all about bottled water's probs (of course it is probably funded by brita or something) It's funny how before bottled water was popular scientists didn't say anything about drinking 8 glasses a day. Then bottled water started making a run and they were shouting it from the rooftops :p




SugarMyChurro -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 9:07:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer
...than on the entire opposite gender.


See the word "most" in my previous statement? It's a qualifier. I accept that there are exceptions to my own anecdotal observations on life and the people around me.

You don't know me, and I don't know you. You don't have to feel insulted or try to insult me in retaliation.







OrionTheWolf -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 9:24:44 PM)

Recycling? Haaaa. The amount of toxic pollution it makes to recycle is not a factor to anyone?




OrionTheWolf -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 9:29:37 PM)

Here ia a link a couple of years old where there was a taste test and lab test done of municple water - bottled water

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2005/09/18/water_wars/




ownedgirlie -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 9:29:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ManInTheBox
I actually heard distilling water is also bad because there are nutrients and minerals in water that are good for you that are destroyed when you distill it. There's a site called like bottledwaterblues.com that tells all about bottled water's probs (of course it is probably funded by brita or something) It's funny how before bottled water was popular scientists didn't say anything about drinking 8 glasses a day. Then bottled water started making a run and they were shouting it from the rooftops :p


Yeah, I heard that, too, but figured I was better off taking supplements than ingesting the rest of that crap that's in my water. 

I just don't like the taste of my tap water.  And bottles are convenient to pack around - I keep 'em in my car, at my office, in my purse...




ownedgirlie -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 9:31:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Recycling? Haaaa. The amount of toxic pollution it makes to recycle is not a factor to anyone?


I've heard this.  My brother told me about a documentary he saw which caused him to STOP recycling.  It's hard to know what to believe anymore.  Each side of the argument will come up with plausable claims. 




popeye1250 -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/24/2007 11:09:42 PM)

I've been lucky, when I lived in New Hampshire I had a well that was replenished by a cold spring and tasted great. It was a little high in iron content but that won't hurt you.
Here in Myrtle Beach I drink the water right out of the tap.
I don't know about that "8 glasses a day" stuff unless you're outside working in the heat.




UtopianRanger -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/25/2007 12:45:56 AM)

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A further digression...

Most of the women I have dated the last several years would not have the culinary palette to actually enjoy this menu: http://www.chezpanisse.com/pgdownmenu.html

I find that one of the first things I have to teach most women under 40 is how to cook. Some cannot so much as boil pasta or flip an egg in a pan. Then I have to teach them to eat the things they have never even tried before - common things one can find in most stores.

These women don't sew. Their cleaning skills are barely passable. They can't wire electrical. They can't even check the oil in their own cars.

Pathetic.


Man....I'm truly sorry to hear that - Really!  As far as collarme me goes, I've met quite a few women that are well versed in sustainable, eclectic dining.

And when it comes to wine, I met lil' blond from Canada that would have given my father a run for his money as far as knowledge on international wines.....And he has fifteen-hundred square feet of his home and over four thousand bottles of wine dedicated to his collection.





- R





OrionTheWolf -> RE: San Francisco says no to bottled water (6/25/2007 7:33:12 PM)

Do the research yourself. First find a crediable site, not in the US or with US ties, and look at data of how much pollution is caused to recycle plastic (this is the one I looked into). Then look into the different ways the containers could be made so that they were either easier to recycle, without so much pollution, or bio-degradable. Both of those options are in the end cheaper, and less pollutant than the current system. The resysling industry is like any other, they are there to make a profit.

My form of recycling is better, we wash out the water bottles and reuse them for tap water or other beverages that we are going to take with us. Bottled water is a conveinance to me, but I can make it into more. All recyling plastic does it reduce the amount of trash in landfills, but waste disposal technology is coming along rather quickly. One of my clients was telling me about plasma incineration, that not only destroys the trash but there are no toxins released. they capture out the methane and other gases so they can either be filtered to an inerate state or used as alternative fuels.

Orion


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Recycling? Haaaa. The amount of toxic pollution it makes to recycle is not a factor to anyone?


I've heard this.  My brother told me about a documentary he saw which caused him to STOP recycling.  It's hard to know what to believe anymore.  Each side of the argument will come up with plausable claims. 




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