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Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 4:50:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		SATURDAY, June 23 (HealthDay News) -- By 2050, an estimated 48 million Americans will have type 2 diabetes as the epidemic continues unabated, according to new federal projections.


But along with the disease will come increases in accompanying health problems, such as blindness and hearing loss, according to several presentations to be made Saturday at the American Diabetes Association annual meeting, in Chicago.


"From 1963 to 2005, we saw periods of sharp increase in the rate of diabetes cases," said Linda S. Geiss, chief of diabetes surveillance at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and lead author of the first presentation. "Increases in diabetes cases have been going on for 15 years, and it doesn't look like it's slowing down," she added.


Reviewing data from the National Health Interview Survey, Geiss' team found that from 1990 to 2005, cases of diabetes increased from 26.4 per 1,000 people to 54.5 per 1,000 people, a 4.6 percent increase each year.

Geiss believes the diabetes epidemic is largely being driven by obesity, which is also epidemic in the United States

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20070623/hl_hsn/uspredictsdiabetesepidemictogoonunchecked

As some of you know, I was diagnosed with diabetes in December, so this hits home a bit for me. I can't stress strongly enough the importance of getting your fasting blood sugar checked, and perhaps even a test called an A1c, which tells you what your blood sugar has run on average for a 3 month period.
 
Even if you aren't diabetic, you can still have insulin resistance, which basically means the cells in your body don't work well with the insulin your body is making, thus the insulin builds up in your blood stream, doing damage to every part of your body.
 
As the story speaks about, obesity is one of the prime causes of these problems. What causes obesity? Different things, yes, but certainly the eating/overeating of carbohydrates. Sugar is the preminent culprit here, but depending on the individual, even fruit and grains can aggravate blood sugar.
 
If it is a carbohydrate, it is broken down in the body as sugar.

The rise in obesity in this country, contrary to popular belief, is not due to eating steak or cheese. I would suggest we look at sugar/carbs as the problem. Fat consumption in America has plummeted; and "fat free" this and that is on nearly every shelf in the stores. When did this begin? About the same time that obesity/diabetes cases began rising......



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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 4:57:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		After having been diagnosed with hypertension (High Blood Pressure), I began reading labels.  Once I started doing so, I realized that pre-processed foods are probably one of the primary causes of high blood pressure and obesity.

For instance, oranges do not contain any sodium naturally.  Why then do most orange juices contain added salt (to the tune of 10% of your RDA).  "Fat Free" foods are the worst offenders as the manufacturers increase the sugars and salt to make it "taste good". 

While a low fat, low sodium diet is good, don't fall into the hype of the "Fat Free" food phenomenon.  Something has to give somewhere and it's normally in the form of more carbs and salt.

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:02:13 AM   
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After having been diagnosed with hypertension (High Blood Pressure), I began reading labels.  Once I started doing so, I realized that pre-processed foods are probably one of the primary causes of high blood pressure and obesity.

For instance, oranges do not contain any sodium naturally.  Why then do most orange juices contain added salt (to the tune of 10% of your RDA).  "Fat Free" foods are the worst offenders as the manufacturers increase the sugars and salt to make it "taste good". 

While a low fat, low sodium diet is good, don't fall into the hype of the "Fat Free" food phenomenon.  Something has to give somewhere and it's normally in the form of more carbs and salt.


*added emphasis mine*
 
Hi, QuietlySeeking. You are absolutely right about processed foods. The overwhelming majority of them, to be blunt, are junk.

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:03:39 AM   
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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:10:25 AM   
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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:12:16 AM   
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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:12:31 AM   
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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:14:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Although you are entitled to your own opinion, I don't think that's a very healthy attitude.  If you can improve your health markedly by simply eating better, where's the stress factor there?

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:29:52 AM   
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i don't want to know if i have diabetis or any other dibilitating disorder or disease. if i die, i die. i feel i'll live longer NOT knowing because of the added stress that we, as a people, go through once we DO find out we've got something. STRESS KILLS


I promise you one thing, when the diabetes kicks in, you'll know it whether you want to or not, and it may be too late to undo the damage.
 
Catch it early, and you can control it, and avoid complications.
 
"Stress"? When they're amputating your toes, or you're going blind, or your kidneys are shutting down and you're going on dialysis, you'll really be stressed.

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:35:41 AM   
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How would you like to be my personal dietician?


If I can help, I will.



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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:48:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sodium is added to most foods, many that you would never think of.  Next time you buy the prepackaged uncooked chicken (frozen or refrigerated), look at ingredients.  I've yet to find one that doesn't have salt added.  Most say "injected with up to 15% broth" otherwise known as salt water.   Ground turkey also has sodium added, some more than others.   I try to buy most of my meat at the butcher who claims to not have added any sodium.

Sodium is natural in some foods such as tuna, but more is often added.  My best advice is to read the ingredients list on the label.   I've found that oftentimes, the inexpensive generic brand of a product (such as tomato paste) will not have sodium added.  Sometimes this is stated on the front of the label, but sometimes not.  If it is, they often charge more.  Doesn't make sense to me, charge more for less.



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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 5:54:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is also important to know the signs of diabetes.  As many doctors don't even check for diabetes.
There seem to be a lot of false positives out there as well.

I believe 160 is the borderline.  If you test 165 many doctors won't put you on meds.
Others will.

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 6:13:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		The average blood sugar reading of a healthy non-diabetic is 83, I think.
 
Non-diabetic is anything below 100.
 
Pre-diabetic is 100 to 125.
 
Anything higher is diabetic.
 
A consensus seems to be building that damage is done when blood sugar goes over 150. When I was diagnosed in December, my reading was 339 (ulp!). Just back in 2004, it was 102. With diet and one pill a day, I keep it in the upper 70s-mid 80s now.
 
Yes, you can get inaccurate readings, especially with some store bought meters, but most readings you get done in a lab will be accurate.

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 7:28:58 AM   
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i don't want to know if i have diabetis or any other dibilitating disorder or disease. if i die, i die. i feel i'll live longer NOT knowing because of the added stress that we, as a people, go through once we DO find out we've got something. STRESS KILLS


michael:

Just something to think about:

Undiagnosed high blood pressure, diabetes and many other treatable conditions generally do not kill you < suddenly or quickly> if left untreated. Generally speaking the diseases lead to secondary complications such as stroke, kidney damage, periperal vascular disease, neuropathy,  to name a few. So chances are you won't die, but you will become disabled in some manner and quite possibly incapable of living independently. But you most assuredly will have a lesser quality of life.

For myself, a few lifestyle and diet changes, perhaps a medication or two are a small price to pay and less stressful to maintain my current quality of life.

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 7:40:03 AM   
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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 7:56:09 AM   
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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 7:59:37 AM   
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That mbmbn is a smart betch.



and quite the asshole too !

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 8:04:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good subject Level. Eating better is something I am constantly striving for. Not for any particular health reason but because I want to live at least another 55 years and I prefer to do it with the least amount of medical intervention possible.

Diabetes is seriously on the rise in this country and the primary cause is diet. I was reading something on Dr. Weil's website the other day, a topic called something like "Is your food tasting sweeter?" not the exact title but you get the gist. He discussed how all of our processed foods have dramatically increased their sugar content since 1978, primarily with the use of cheap corn syrup, which is far worse for us that regular sugar. Some foods have even doubled their content. And get this, this is the part that really pissed me off, PRODUCE, yes fresh produce has significantly increased it's sugar content! Hybrids have been created to satisfy our ever increasing sweet tooth. No wonder I like my bananas slightly green, less sweet and with less sugar than a fully ripe one! Strawberries, not the same little berry as 30 years ago at all.

Though I have no health issues I recently saw a 3/4 photo (right rear shot) of myself and thought, "who is that fat broad? OMG!!!!!!!! It's ME!!" This led me to reconsider my diet and I realized I was getting out of my habit of eatting whole unprocessed foods. So, back to more healthy choices for me. It isn't really a diet but a lifestyle choice of good health. Everyone is different in what works for them but for me a 45yo female, a semi organic, whole foods, semi vegan, way is best. Because of my age. I do not need alot of dairy or meat. I am not going to give it up, just make it an occasional treat rather than a daily food item. I try to substitute soy milk in most things I would use regular milk. I cut way back on cheese. Avoid ANYTHING with corn syrup for the most part, it is purely evil. Same with white flour, process grains like white rice. Also regular white potatoes. Granted there are no reasons you cannot have some of these things on occasion but they are just terrible food choices and should not be a regular food item. I saw a book the other day that is the closest to this eating plan, some new diet book with an old idea. Something about skinny bitches. The reality is that it is nothing new at all, just cutting back on the things that make us fat and destroy our health. Having food that is as close to the source as possible.

I don't want high blood pressure, cholesterol or diabetes. Rather than wait until I am diagnosed and deal, I prefer to be more proactive.

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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 8:26:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good morning, LaT. I agree about processed foods, and corn syrup, pure junk.

For anyone interested, here's some links to wonderful sites, and authors, that have opened my eyes in the last 6 months.

http://www.ninaplanck.com

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike

http://www.lowcarb.ca

http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf

http://www.thegreatcholesterolcon.com

http://rjr10036.typepad.com/askdrvernon

http://thefitnessinsider.menshealth.com

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

http://weightoftheevidence.blogspot.com




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RE: Diabetes to go unchecked? - 6/24/2007 8:33:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		The South Beach way of eating is also very good for diabetics and to help prevent diabetes. It works by keeping your blood sugars even throughout the day. For those who don't need to lose weight it is still a very healthy way to eat and you can go directly to phase 3, the maintenance phase.

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