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farglebargle -> Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 12:09:33 PM)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070611/wl_afp/usattacksjustice_070611181145;_ylt=AiThrS3o1GJrvXfrSpklottH2ocA WASHINGTON (AFP) - A US appeals court ruled Monday that the United States cannot detain the only "enemy combatant" being held on US soil indefinitely without charge. The court ordered the release from military detention of Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, 41, who the government believed was a "sleeper" agent of the Al-Qaeda terrorist network. "Even assuming the truth of the government's allegations, the president lacks power to order the military to seize and indefinitely detain al-Marri," the court ruled.

Archer -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 12:14:58 PM)
Works for me. I still say it comes down to who arrests/ captures them and where. Captured on a military batlefield operation (Gitmo Bound) Arrested in the US (US District Court Bound) The diffeence is simple enough to make out.

popeye1250 -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 12:32:05 PM)
Fine, then fly him to Saudi Arabia and hand him over to their justice system.

DomKen -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 1:23:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Fine, then fly him to Saudi Arabia and hand him over to their justice system. He's a legal resident of the US who has not been convicted of any crime. Why exactly should we deport him?

thompsonx -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 1:29:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Fine, then fly him to Saudi Arabia and hand him over to their justice system. popeye: Besides yourself is there anyone else that you feel is entitled to due process? thompson

OrangeJulius -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 1:46:33 PM)
I think what popeye meant was that terrorists in the middle east tend to have very short trials, and are either tossed in prison, or just wasted on the spot. Whether this is actually true, I really don't know, but that seems to be the general belief here in the US.

Real0ne -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 1:50:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070611/wl_afp/usattacksjustice_070611181145;_ylt=AiThrS3o1GJrvXfrSpklottH2ocA WASHINGTON (AFP) - A US appeals court ruled Monday that the United States cannot detain the only "enemy combatant" being held on US soil indefinitely without charge. The court ordered the release from military detention of Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri, 41, who the government believed was a "sleeper" agent of the Al-Qaeda terrorist network. "Even assuming the truth of the government's allegations, the president lacks power to order the military to seize and indefinitely detain al-Marri," the court ruled. chalk up one fopr the people. popeye i wish i could honestly say that the gov was not involved in 911, why should this guy be held and not the rest of the perps?

SimplyMichael -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 2:25:17 PM)
quote: I think what popeye meant was that terrorists in the middle east tend to have very short trials, This guy not only didn't even get a short trial, he wasn't even charged. In other words, Bush wants a justice system that makes the ME look humane.

popeye1250 -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 2:44:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrangeJulius I think what popeye meant was that terrorists in the middle east tend to have very short trials, and are either tossed in prison, or just wasted on the spot. Whether this is actually true, I really don't know, but that seems to be the general belief here in the US. Julias, yeah, if that guy was "here to study" on a Visa and was caught for "credit card fraud" he should have been deported. The article doesn't say which country he was from. Also the article said he "brought his wife and 5 children with him." To study? He wouldn't be getting much "studying" done with a wife and five kids would he? Sounds more like they were just going to remain as illegal aliens after the Visa expired.

SimplyMichael -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 4:27:24 PM)
That's it Popeye, lets start convicting people of what they might do. I mean then we could be a country we could really be proud of. I say we just shoot all the dark skinned people and be done with it!

Joseff -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 6:51:53 PM)
So charge him with treason and lets move on.... Joseff

popeye1250 -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 7:06:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael That's it Popeye, lets start convicting people of what they might do. I mean then we could be a country we could really be proud of. I say we just shoot all the dark skinned people and be done with it! Michael, if you want to make excuses for people like this knock yourself out. And what does this have to do with "dark-skinned people?"

Sinergy -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/11/2007 7:08:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael That's it Popeye, lets start convicting people of what they might do. I mean then we could be a country we could really be proud of. I say we just shoot all the dark skinned people and be done with it! You know, SimplyMichael, Whitey might commit crimes as well. Sinergy

farglebargle -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/12/2007 4:56:42 AM)
SimplyMichael is explicitly saying the subtext underlying the entire "Illegal issue". Darkies. The word no-one will say, but which is the real crust of the biscuit. Look at the way it's laid out... Skull and Bones members. The Illuminati Masons Protestants Catholics Mexicans Negros Jews. The way the game is played, each faction is set against one or two other factions. Mexicans compete with Negros for jobs. The Illuminati constantly prank the Masons, etc.... Steve Jackson did a study of the phenom, and released it as a "game". What the skulls and bonsers, and masons don't get, is that they are just as manipulated and used as any other faction. They just get nicer cars, and better hotel rooms.

Vendaval -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/12/2007 2:22:21 PM)
You left out the hookers and blow, FB! Let me re-phrase that, the very expensive, paid for by your tax dollars, hookers and blow. [8D] quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle What the skulls and bonsers, and masons don't get, is that they are just as manipulated and used as any other faction. They just get nicer cars, and better hotel rooms.

Sinergy -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/12/2007 5:52:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval You left out the hookers and blow, FB! Let me re-phrase that, the very expensive, paid for by your tax dollars, hookers and blow. [8D] quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle What the skulls and bonsers, and masons don't get, is that they are just as manipulated and used as any other faction. They just get nicer cars, and better hotel rooms. "There is no professional criminal class but Congress." Mark Twain.

Termyn8or -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/13/2007 1:06:04 AM)
Hmmmm, Due Process eh ? Due, could mean like a due date, but the root of it is due, which means deserved if you break it down. Process, well you walk into a court and the process is that they stack the odds so much in their favor you should've just left the country, and even attourny client priveledge has been breached, IIRC it was a case against an accounting firm or something. So hereis how it is. They will give you whatever process they figure is due you. And they will do you. You can lose or win and go broke, or you can cop a plea and go less broke. They win. T

Aswad -> RE: Due Process MEANS DUE PROCESS! (6/13/2007 1:27:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx popeye: Besides yourself is there anyone else that you feel is entitled to due process? آمين Very good question, thompson.

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