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Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 7:50:17 AM   
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This article caught my eye because deep within the most dark recesses of my being I am a devoted vidiot (a vidiot is a guy that loves video games: I coined this word back in the very early 80's).

My question for debate is can video games really be sacrilegious? I mean, a good deal of video games have you blasting one life form or another into oblivion. The settings of these games can be anywhere from the very pit of Hell itself to a quiet countryside of rolling hills that is infested with aliens or the beach at the D Day invasion. Is the violence in these games sending the wrong message to our young people?

There are a few games that I really thought were in poor taste, like the one where you kill cops and gain points for it or the WW2 games where you are a soldier fighting the Germans or the Japanese. The reason the war ones got to me was because war is not a video game and I thought it kind of disrespectful to those that died in combat... but that is me.

Now the new setting is a real cathedral and the shooting begins inside and the carnage piles up from there. Has a line been crossed here?

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 8:16:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sick, eh?  I wonder how many Church officials are licensed in medicine.

That said, I'm also disturbed by the violence of video games.  We used to play shit like Pacman and Donkey Kong.  Our kids play Let's Kill as Many Motherfuckers as We Can.

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 8:16:54 AM   
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How is that any more wrong than killing someone in a peaceful field, hospital, or in their homes.

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 8:21:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I should imagine Manchester Cathedral will do very well out of it from all the "vidiots" visiting the site of their atrocities, and making donations!

The only danger I see from it - and it is only a possibility, is that some nut might turn up for a service and stage a real life reenactment of the game, but I doubt most criminals who carry guns (mainly drug gangs) would know where the cathedral is. For certain, they would not have known the setting was Manchester Cathedral, had the CofE not informed everyone.

E

PS - not that I know many female video game nuts, but would a female vidiot be a vidiotte?



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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 8:42:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Churches said the same thing about radio and the phonograph.  Jazz music was going to corrupt white women and put them in the arms of those dangerous, pagan blacks.  They said the same thing about comic books; they corrupted the youth and would turn them all into violent sociopaths.  They even talked comic book companies into having a code to enforce rules on what acceptable in comic books.  Television, music, art, you name it and the churches have criticized it.  Everytime there is a new entertainment medium or information source, the religious authorities come out to expose the dark forces behind it.  The reason they do it is not because of some perceived moral outrage.  The fact is they have all been and are competition to religion.  Churches survive on the money that comes from its parishoners.  When the parishoners would rather sit at home on a Sunday playing video games, watching television, and drinking beer than the church loses money.  Well there is no better way to gain an audience than to use controversy and outrage.  It draws the suckers in everytime.  I am quite sure that P.T. Barnum would have been a preacher had he not discovered the wonderful world of freak and oddity exploitation. 

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 10:19:03 AM   
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It is a fictional game based in reality.
If people can leave children in empty rooms or fly aircraft into buildings or open guns in a school, I do not see how a video game can 'cross a line' that reality already is.
 
War games teach history that may very well be missed by certain people.  I find the lack of knowledge of people who find things out via a video game more shocking than the carnage itself.
 
I hated DonkeyKong... it had extremely low morals... People tend to forget at the same time as playing mario, or pacman, we were also shooting aliens in space invaders, killer amphibians in frogger and leaping large barrels with superhuman bounds.
Of course, people prefere fantasy to reality anyday surely?
 
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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 11:01:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Possibly a line has been crossed....We, at Domiguy Industries, are in the developmental stages of a new video game, "Fucking Mary!!!  The Quest For the Egg!!!"  The premise of the game is that you have inseminated the Virgin Mary exactly at the same moment as the Lord Almighty.....Now your sperm battles against that of Jehovah's as you race up the fallopian tubes towards victory!!!....The fate of Christianity swings in the balance!!!...Pure excitement!

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 11:09:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		could you consider an islamic plugin?  WMD sperm, or sarin smoked kotex or something that would further upset the balance of power? 

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 11:29:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

could you consider an islamic plugin?  WMD sperm, or sarin smoked kotex or something that would further upset the balance of power? 


Obviously there is already in planning, "Fucking Mary!!! The Quest For the Egg II !!!."  Where heavily fortified diaphrams and treacherous IUD's ,planted by  rebel forces, try and thwart your sperms progress....As well as your sperm facing the challenge of thriving  within Mary's typically unclean, 9 months B.C. cooch.   It is a total adrenaline rush!!! 

Now as far as the idea of a "sarin soked kotex," well I am afraid that is just too "over the top." 

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 11:34:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		...i feel you wont exploit the possibilities of this idea fully, until you create an MMO version.....instead of computer enemies, face IUD's and similar from real players from around the world.....you could call it 'MARY! The Clusterfuck!'

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 11:45:45 AM   
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Shes back, shes mad, and bloodier than hell----Mary the PMS edition. 

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 3:29:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		General reply - I think that the Church is over-reacting but that Sony should have obtained permission to use images of the cathedral first.  It will be interesting to see how this will play out in the court system, since Sony's corporate headquarters are in Japan and they have much more expensive lawyers than the Church of England can afford. 

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/11/2007 4:37:56 PM   
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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/13/2007 2:53:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm another self-confessed vidiot (love the term ) and I've actually played the level in Resistance : Fall Of Man that is causing the Church to get its' cassocks in a twist. This isn't the first time that a church has been used as the backdrop in a First Person Shooter (FPS) game, and I'm sure it won't be the last, but there is a certain hypocrisy to the Church's claims that this is 'sick and sacrileigious. This is the same Church who for centuries murdered their way through country after country, slaughtering millions of 'infidels' in the name of God, destroying temples and other holy places of those whose faith and belief didn't sit in line with the almighty Church of England (and let's not even get onto the Catholic Church or we'l be here all day!).

That to me is pretty 'sick', whereas a fictional game (which incidentally carries a '15' certificate so shouldn't be played by children under that age by rights anyway) in which the story line actually involves humans trying to destroy alien invaders and actually drive them from the cathedral is just another form of entertainment.

It's also, as slaveboyforyou pointed out, a nice bit of PR for the Church, who can once more set themselves up as the moral guardians of the country (and indeed the world!) and expose the darkness in the heart of our society. (*rolls eyes*) - At the risk of opening up a can of worms, didn't this 'God' give us all free will, which presumably includes being able to create our own entertainment? Strikes me that if he was realyy displeased with Sony using the cathedral as a backdrop to this game then he would have smited their asses with a holy lightning bolt or something.......

In my (ever so humble) opinion, I think the Church are over-reacting, as they are quick to allow 'questionable' things to occur in their holy places, one of the more famous being allowing Gregory Peck to try to murder a six-year old child on the altar of St Peter's Church in Staines, Middlesex in the final minutes of The Omen. You might argue that he was trying to kill the anti-Christ, but he doesn't succeed, so what kind of religious message is that, eh?

Oh well, just think, if all computer games were banned then the world would become the Eden-like Utopia that God intended.........

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RE: Church of England Calls Sony Game 'Sick' - 6/13/2007 6:49:23 AM   
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Oh well, just think, if all computer games were banned then the world would become the Eden-like Utopia that God intended.........


And just think... Pong started all of this mess.

BOYCOTT PONG!

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