So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do?

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farglebargle -> So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:11:25 AM)
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4284 quote: Another Middle East war erupts Wednesday as 50,000 Turkish troops launch operation against Kurdish PKK bases, several thousand crossing into N. Iraq June 6, 2007, 9:07 PM (GMT+02:00) The official Turkish news agency Cihan reports the force, backed by armored vehicles and combat aircraft, is targeting rebel strongholds in 11 provinces in southeastern Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan Wednesday, June 6. White House officials speaking from the G8 summit in Germany said there was “no new activity” from Turkish troops in northern Iraq. Military HQ in Ankara declined to confirm or deny that Turkish troops had entered Iraq. DEBKAfile’s military sources report that this is only the first wave of Turkish invaders, with more to come. A Turkish force of 90,000 troops has been massed at the sourthern town of Sirank opposite the meeting point of the Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian borders, drawing a warning to Ankara from US defense secretary Robert Gates to stay out of Iraq.

philosophy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:12:43 AM)
...call Turkey a partner of the coalition and then turn a blind eye?

farglebargle -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:14:07 AM)
But the Kurds are are US's BESTEST IRAQI BUDDIES! We keep hearing how Baghdad isn't representative, and it's so much more peaceful up in Kirkuck...

philosophy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:20:21 AM)
...but, but, but Turkey makes such a handy place to fly planes from.........

LadyEllen -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:27:36 AM)
Should Turkey invade Iraq, the US (and the rest of us) should resist - but not at all vigorously. We should fall back slowly and let the Turks conquer Iraq. Sounds like a much better solution than any we have on the table as of now. And we lost this war a while back anyway so its not like a defeat or anything. And the Turks will have to deal with the shit - which is better too, since they arent so concerned as we are about playing fair. With our armies freed from their Iraq duties, we can then mount the invasion of Iran thats being shaped up right now, with Mr Putin on our side. There is no split over those anti-missile systems - its all smoke and mirrors..... E

Arpig -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:46:28 AM)
I am sure your response was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but the idea of leaving the mess to the turks has some appeal [:)]

philosophy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:52:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig I am sure your response was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but the idea of leaving the mess to the turks has some appeal [:)] ..turkish delight?

LadyEllen -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 11:59:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig I am sure your response was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, but the idea of leaving the mess to the turks has some appeal [:)] You know what they say about true words being spoken in jest..... though I dont necessarily jest. I can see such a strategy being employed some time soon. E

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 12:00:50 PM)
get out the cranberry sauce and the apple pie...don't forget the fruit cocktail...LOL

nessny -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 12:08:39 PM)
I thought Turkey is part of NATO and an allay of the US.. so they will act together?

thompsonx -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 12:20:18 PM)
<quick reply> So it would appear that this discussion is not about what is right, moral, just or rational but rather more about who I can sell my stash of body bags to. Rich people sending poor people to kill other poor people so rich people can have more money that they will never spend.....in short business as usual. thompson

philosophy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 12:58:16 PM)
oooh, you cynic you........

Sinergy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:03:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx <quick reply> So it would appear that this discussion is not about what is right, moral, just or rational but rather more about who I can sell my stash of body bags to. Rich people sending poor people to kill other poor people so rich people can have more money that they will never spend.....in short business as usual. thompson I am not sure the United States has any moral high ground from which to criticize the Turks. I am also not sure the United States wants to get into a war with Turkey. Our military is already spread thin and opening another front against the Turks, our ally in NATO, will not go over well domestically or abroad. The Turks will do what they want to do and become the oppressive rulers of Kurdistan. I really doubt the Turks will want to take the job of oppressing the rest of Iraq from the United States. The US is doing such a bang up job of it. The US wont allow them to do that anyway because that involves giving up all those oil reserves. Good thing AnencephalyBoy pushed over that first domino. With the fall of the Soviet Union, I used to have this weird idea that we no longer had to worry about World War 3. Sinergy

philosophy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:07:52 PM)
.......i don't think the US would raise a finger to prevent Turkey from invading Kurdistan........however, the European Union might, because Turkey wants to join and such an invasion might precipitate a popular movement in other member countries against them. Comes to something though when public opinion in France, Germany, Hollan and the UK is about the only way to prevent such an occurence.....

Sinergy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:12:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: philosophy .......i don't think the US would raise a finger to prevent Turkey from invading Kurdistan........however, the European Union might, because Turkey wants to join and such an invasion might precipitate a popular movement in other member countries against them. Comes to something though when public opinion in France, Germany, Hollan and the UK is about the only way to prevent such an occurence..... The question then becomes whether Turkey has a rational government capable of viewing possible actions in terms of the impact on their political standing worldwide, or a jingoistic, Kurd-hating, militaristic government that shoots first and asks questions later. Sinergy (yes, AnencephalyBoy's administration falls under the second category if you change "Kurd" to "Al Qaeda" or "Muslim")

subfever -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:18:02 PM)
quote: So it would appear that this discussion is not about what is right, moral, just or rational but rather more about who I can sell my stash of body bags to. Rich people sending poor people to kill other poor people so rich people can have more money that they will never spend.....in short business as usual. thompson quote: oooh, you cynic you........ Cynic, or realist?

nessny -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:18:57 PM)
I think Turkey also wants to protect the Turkmens in Iraq .. they live in the ares of Kirkuk and Arbil... they say their population is over 3 million in iraq

Sinergy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:32:22 PM)
They might invite them to come home, but Turkey can probably see how effective the United States is at managing Iraq. I could be wrong, but I am dubious Turkey will want the job. Sinergy

Michael72801 -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:37:32 PM)
I look forward to Turkey joining the combat in Iraq. The Turkish military is a no nonsense organization, not hindered by western morals. They will shoot first and not even attempt to ask questions. Turks are perfectly adapted to dealing with terrosists and terrorism. The best part is, the west does not have to answer for Turkish retribution. I am somewhat concerned about innocent Kurds (poor farmers and their families). The Turks will have no leniency towards them. As far as the belligerent Kurds that consisitently ravage the Turkish homeland, I say let the Turks have them. This petty religious squabble that inundates and permeates the middle east has to be brought under control. If that means killing all the protagonists, I agree.

philosophy -> RE: So, when Turkey invades Iraq, what will the US do? (6/6/2007 1:41:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Michael72801 I look forward to Turkey joining the combat in Iraq. The Turkish military is a no nonsense organization, not hindered by western morals. They will shoot first and not even attempt to ask questions. Turks are perfectly adapted to dealing with terrosists and terrorism. The best part is, the west does not have to answer for Turkish retribution. I am somewhat concerned about innocent Kurds (poor farmers and their families). The Turks will have no leniency towards them. As far as the belligerent Kurds that consisitently ravage the Turkish homeland, I say let the Turks have them. This petty religious squabble that inundates and permeates the middle east has to be brought under control. If that means killing all the protagonists, I agree. ...let me see if i understand your ethical position. If one member of a community is a terrorist then it is morally acceptable to either directly or indirectly engage in wiping out the entire community. Does this also apply to US citizens or is it only Kurds?

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