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Lordandmaster -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/5/2007 6:39:48 PM)

Interesting question.  My guess is no, but does anyone have first-hand experience?

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ORIGINAL: Einzelganger

Is this sort of thing possible with male submissives?



tyku -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/5/2007 7:00:50 PM)

Since males and females both have wet dreams I assume that males can be trained to do this just as easily as any female.



Joseff -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/5/2007 8:26:15 PM)

I have used a technique that is very like hypnotism to train my sub to orgasm on commandIt is easy and (in her case) took only minutes.  Later, I succeeded in training her by a physical cue. First it was a squeeze on the upper breast, then later a pinch of the nipple. This takes longer because you have to physically condition the cue. The hypnotic technique is effective enough that I even attempted to do it online. Although according to her I was succesful initially, we were unable to repeat the event.
Joseff



tweakinglabia -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/5/2007 8:30:01 PM)

ahhh yummy thoughts
please can we get lessons on such a thing?



Einzelganger -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/5/2007 10:38:32 PM)

Yummy indeed...to think that she could control the most personal function of my body with but a word.  It's the stuff of dreams, and if I'm fortunate enough...reality...

-Einzelgänger



imthatacheyouhav -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/5/2007 10:39:38 PM)

My Master wants to train me for this...i am looking forward to it.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/5/2007 11:07:25 PM)

The lessons don't work unless they're delivered in person.

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ORIGINAL: tweakinglabia

please can we get lessons on such a thing?



CreativeDominant -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/6/2007 7:05:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Interesting question.  My guess is no, but does anyone have first-hand experience?

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ORIGINAL: Einzelganger

Is this sort of thing possible with male submissives?



From what I learned of the differences in male vs. female physiology in school, I would say no.  Of course, one of the things I have learned in the 24 years I have been out of school is that there is a reason they keep refreshing the textbooks...new things about the body continue to be learned.

Given the differing reactions that occur during a male orgasm, and the longer refractory time, and the amount of ejaculate material on the first orgasm as compared to the second one, I would think that there would be a diminishing effect with each one.  As you stated, LaM, it is an interesting question to ponder and perhaps do some research on.



HypnoticDan -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/6/2007 7:18:44 AM)

A few answers:

While you may not be able to make a man instantly come on command there are ways to build the illusion of the sensation. For example, they could relive the feeling of an intense orgasm on command, which is almost the same thing and far less messy. This is perfectly do-able as everyone has experience hearing a phrase that triggers a vivid memory. I attempt to do something similar with the girls - there's no way they get physically aroused in four syllables but they swear it is working.

Having said that, I have not tried to hypnotise a man for this purpose. There's always a first time for everything, yes?

If you don't reinforce the suggestion it will fade in time. How long? It varies from person to person. Could you strengthen it often enough that it become permanent? Don't know, haven't tried. The only suggestion I would leave in that doesn't have a definite termination date would be a "back door" to get them into trance again quickly, and that suggestion would be protected with all kinds of rules like "but only when I do it" and "only when we are alone" and "only if you are willing".

Trying to learn to be a hypnotist from a book will only give you theorhetical knowledge. It's about as useful as reading up on how to hit the g-spot when you're still a virgin. When you finally get a chance to try... I think one of my young friends said he got "lost in all the folds and stuff".



aparootsa -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/6/2007 4:10:37 PM)

I've often wondered why there's so little discussion about males cumming on command. I've never experienced it, but I happen to know that males are just as trainable as females, and can be made to become erect with keywords or gestures (and, no not naughty ones in particular - a snap can suffice). I'm confident it's only a matter of choosing to train for orgasm, though the refractory period may affect things - not training so much as repetitious compliance, etc.

There are really two things we're discussing here, though: having an orgasm and having the feeling of an orgasm. Above I was talking about the first, but I think the second may actually be more fun...



tyku -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/6/2007 6:33:02 PM)

I think that many people simply fail to understand that there is a difference between orgasm, and ejaculation.  Just because people are used to the two "naturally" occuring at the same time in males doesn't mean that it has to be that way.

As to the duration of a post-hypnotic suggestion it depends on several factors:  the uniqueness of the initiating stimuli, the suggestibility of the subject, the subjects desire for the outcome(or lack of conscious knowledge of the installation), the way the suggestion fits the subjects set, the setting in which the post-hypnotic suggestion is given, and the skill of the hypnotist at utilizing all of the other factors.



Mtoyou -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/6/2007 7:57:01 PM)

it cannot be learned via research or reading the "manual" ....like the others have said its done within the context of Pavlovs dog theories or hypnosis or mind over body bodyover mind type reptitious enforcement.



Joseff -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/6/2007 8:11:17 PM)

As mI stated earlier, I tried it once online, and though the lady claimed it worked initially, it wasn't repeatable.
Joseff



HornyToadsMI -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/7/2007 4:37:35 AM)

Mtoyou -

Thank you for agreeing!  The OP, needs to start by deciding what the trigger will be.  Then, use the trigger repeatedly during masterbation or orgasm.  The trigger needs to be tied to the actual orgasm.  After multiple experiences with the trigger being tied to the orgasm, the trigger itself will cause the orgasm. 

As for experience, I don't have any with actual human orgasm (other than my own...lol), but I have a degree in Behavioral Psychology.  I spent a semester with my rat "Siggy", training and untraining behaviors (with reinforcement and negative reinforcement).  The Domme in me loved the neg reinforcement segment most...lol. 



MyMastersOwn -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/7/2007 7:21:34 AM)

I find this thread to be very interesting. For 2 reasons. 1. I find orgasm control to be hard to accomplish. It's been tried on my in the past and it's just hard to maintain the situation. Probably because I was dealing with "idiots".. that didn't know what they were doing. Or didn't keep up the task of training me to do so. So there for it's something I find hard to concieve as it actually be able to be done. Now this is only FOR MYSELF... not others.  Everyones built different and can be trained different.

2. Now I personally do not believe in hypnosis. I do not believe someone can be hypnotized that is not open minded to it. Though i'm open minded to it. I'm just in that percentage that refuses to accept the concept. Some say it comes from fear of it...and just being stubborn and refuse to mentally accept the hypnotizism. This maybe so... but as it was also just explained to me while i'm typing this... some people just don't simply do not want others messing about in their inner thoughts... mind... etc... so they refuse to even attempt.

I'll be looking forward to reading more responses to this thread....

Oh and someone said...certain things can't be faked... a female cumming.. can be faked. Specially if someone is standing there watching... not feeling for him/herself.



nearnyccouple -> RE: Orgasm on cue? (6/7/2007 8:18:57 AM)

i was one of those disbelievers until i met Master. it takes a lot of trust between the partners and doesnt happen overnight.  it is however lots of fun getting to the point where it can happen.  for me its not just the trigger, but the sound and tone of his voice as well.  someone else can say the trigger word and i have no response at all. thank goodness. :)
 
cassie



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