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Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 5:52:30 PM   
Griswold


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20070525/ap_tr_ge/travel_brief_plane_birth
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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 5:57:09 PM   
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"Delivering a baby in an aisle of a plane isn't an easy thing to do," one of the doctors, Dr. Robert Vincent, a pediatric cardiologist with Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, said Friday. "I didn't think the child would survive."

Dumbest Fucking Quote Ever.

Damn doctors. You think a Midwife would be all fucking wussy about this?

Now, I understand that seeing a baby "In Distress" generally makes them coerce the mother into a caesarian, but come on.... Why do you think that "Slapping 'em to get 'em breathing" is so incredibly ingrained into our collectives...




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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 6:01:26 PM   
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"Delivering a baby in an aisle of a plane isn't an easy thing to do," one of the doctors, Dr. Robert Vincent, a pediatric cardiologist with Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, said Friday. "I didn't think the child would survive."

Dumbest Fucking Quote Ever.

Damn doctors. You think a Midwife would be all fucking wussy about this?

Now, I understand that seeing a baby "In Distress" generally makes them coerce the mother into a caesarian, but come on.... Why do you think that "Slapping 'em to get 'em breathing" is so incredibly ingrained into our collectives...





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If a woman gives birth in the aisle of an airplane,
and there is no doctor around to deliver it,
was a baby actually born?

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p.s.  Always fascinates me when doctors make inane comments about people not ever having children before doctors came around.

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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 6:03:04 PM   
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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 6:05:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
"Delivering a baby in an aisle of a plane isn't an easy thing to do," one of the doctors, Dr. Robert Vincent, a pediatric cardiologist with Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, said Friday. "I didn't think the child would survive."

Dumbest Fucking Quote Ever.

Damn doctors. You think a Midwife would be all fucking wussy about this?

Now, I understand that seeing a baby "In Distress" generally makes them coerce the mother into a caesarian, but come on.... Why do you think that "Slapping 'em to get 'em breathing" is so incredibly ingrained into our collectives...

um...might the quote have had something to do with the child born not breathing or moving and requiring chest compressions?

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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 6:14:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: girl4you2

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
"Delivering a baby in an aisle of a plane isn't an easy thing to do," one of the doctors, Dr. Robert Vincent, a pediatric cardiologist with Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, said Friday. "I didn't think the child would survive."

Dumbest Fucking Quote Ever.

Damn doctors. You think a Midwife would be all fucking wussy about this?

Now, I understand that seeing a baby "In Distress" generally makes them coerce the mother into a caesarian, but come on.... Why do you think that "Slapping 'em to get 'em breathing" is so incredibly ingrained into our collectives...

um...might the quote have had something to do with the child born not breathing or moving and requiring chest compressions?



That's not *all* that uncommon for them to come out a little blue. And I'm not sure the baby *required* compressions, ( as opposed to just getting the baby started, with just some vigorous rubbing/breathing... ) or they just didn't really know how to deliver a baby without all that shiny medical gear.

All-in-all, the mother is to be congratulated! In the Natural Birth circles we travel in, the Doctor comes off as an alarmist twerp, who sorta freaked out when a pretty normal thing happened.



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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 6:18:00 PM   
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Wonder if he'll grow up to like airplanes or not?  :P

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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 6:47:58 PM   
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when a woman about 32 to 36 weeks � or nine months � pregnant went into labor
 
Facts: 32 to 36 weeks is NOT 9 months pregnant, and delivering a baby at this gestation is considered dangerous (because of prematurity) in a hospital, let alone on an airplane. This is because the lungs are the last thing to mature in a baby, and thus it's expected the baby will have some breathing difficulties, at least. (At this gestation they can have (not always) *sticky* lungs due to a lack of natural surfactant, making even the best resusitation methods/attempts, without ventilation and a synthetic surfactant used to coat the lungs, useless)
 
Using a stethoscope that was part of medical equipment onboard, the doctors realized the baby had a very slow or arrested heartbeat as the woman was in labor.

second of all. i find it very difficult to believe they could hear the unborn baby's heartbeat with a simple stethescope, to determine it was bradycardic (slow heartbeat) or arrested (what i presume as American terminology for no heartbeat), in the first place. Normally either a pinards or sonacaid is used and needed... If it was possible to hear a baby's heartbeat with a simple stethesope, maternity wards wouldn't be fitted with specialised equipment for this.
 
i congratulate the Doctors on keeping this baby alive, if in fact it was born prematurely at 32-36 weeks gestation. While all babies are born blue to at least some degree, until they take their first breath, being premature and if infact it was distressed during labour, they did a great job to get his heart beating, him breathing and then keeping him warm enough to remain alive. A HUGE factor for a prem is to keep the baby warm (not to mention other things). (It's when babies are born white that you need to panic!)
 
However, if this baby was actually 9 months gestation, then why all this drama and sensationalism about what sounds like a natural birth?
 
It just never ceases to amaze me how things are either over sensationalized or facts probably distorted by the media in order to sell papers... all in the vain of having a gripping story!
 
tali

edited... because i can't spell and type at the same time

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RE: Pretty fucking cool eh? - 5/25/2007 11:46:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think doctors are hysterical. They have this long quote from the doctor, yet they don't even know how old the kid is? To the previous poster, yes, it is possible to hear the baby's heartbeat with a stethescope if they are more than 6 months or so along, the sound quality is just not that great and it is harder to tell the difference between the sound of the mothers' heartbeat and the childs', as well as the blood going through the placenta, which can sound similar. That being said, if the child was really 32 weeks GA, I highly doubt a bit of rescue breathing would have saved him, for reasons another poster already stated. Perhaps it's because I have had a homebirth by choice, but I don't find this particularily astonishing. I think this is a really good example of media hype, though.

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