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Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 8:47:50 PM

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Here's one you don't see everyday (though I should go back and search through just to make sure it hasn't been covered.)

I'm going to try to put this as vaguely as possible so as not to envoke the wrath of the you-know-whos...
My boyfriend and I came up with this amazing hot fantasy that I would love to be able to do but I don't know if it is even possible. I wanted to hear if anyone has ever attempted it and if so how it turned out. To put it simply, he loves the idea of being date raped by me - which means that sometime, unbeknownst to him when we're out to dinner, I'd slip him something and by the time we were home he'd be....I don't know, semi conscious? I don't have ANY experience whatsoever and I'm not actually planning on persuing this - so don't yell at me! The fantasy is that he would never know when this would happen and would be put into a state where he may be unaware or only partially aware of what's being done to him and certainly unable to fight back. And before you go getting any sick ideas, the end result would only consist of sex which we have completely consensually all the time anyway, nothing edgy there. Does anyone know of a safe way to do this? Again, not that I would do it but just hypothetically, is it possible? Jeeze, I am dreading the responses here. But there you go.

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 8:56:46 PM

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Wow...yours is mucher milder then mineLOL.......and i hope you can work it out...playing can be fun with someone you know and trust well....

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 9:00:57 PM

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As someone with lots of knock out/paralyzed rape & kidnap fantasies, I just have to say don't be so hesitant about admitting what you like!

Now, a lot of people will say no, just don't.

I think there's plenty of great ways to knock someone out or incapcitate them with very low risk of harm.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_641807/mpage_1/key_knock/tm.htm#641828
unconsciousness and safety

http://www.collarchat.com/m_511471/mpage_3/key_knock/tm.htm#511963
drugging a submissive during bdsm activity

http://www.collarchat.com/m_226339/mpage_1/key_knock/tm.htm
Unconscious Fantasy

http://www.collarchat.com/m_146203/mpage_1/key_knock/tm.htm
hypnosis

http://www.collarchat.com/m_287922/mpage_1/key_knocked/tm.htm#287961
unconscious sub

http://www.collarchat.com/m_106157/mpage_1/key_knocked/tm.htm#108422
chloroform anyone?

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 9:04:04 PM

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The problem with trying to rape a guy is that once you give him something that is potent enough to make him incapable of struggling, it will also make it impossible for him to get or maintain an erection (assuming that's the kind of sex you're talking about). The safest (keep in mind that it's still not safe, it's just safer than most methods) method is to use is alcohol . Everyone has been to the drunken point when you lack the ability to run, walk straight or climb stairs...just get him wasted and you should be able to have your way with him. A bonus with alcohol is that the important parts will work when the time comes. Fantasy rape is a cool idea, but too hard to pull off in a realistic way. Good luck.

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 9:05:22 PM

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Thanks LA, I knew you would show me the links. It's not that I am hesitant about admitting what I want, hell no! What I want? I want him to be unconscious by the time we are home so I have to carry him into the house (already proven I can do this), rip off his clothes, and fuck him every possbile way till I'm bored or exhausted, and for him to only be vaguely conscious of what's going on so that he's not completely free of memories. I was merely afraid that mentioning using a substance to do so would qualify me for a talking-to from the moderators. Now that I know, I'm going to check out those threads.

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 9:06:05 PM

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A couple of OTC Benadryl might make him drowsy enough for your scene. They have an herb supplement that's supposed to make you sleepy too...um, valerian. I've never tried either of those during a scene. There was a thread a while back on this topic, though.

Someone also suggested benzos (like Klonipin or Valium), but they are prescription only, and I wouldn't reccomend giving him something without a doctor's okay.

Good luck with the scene...you might find that slipping something, even as benign, as Benadryl in his drink might have the desired effect once he realizes that he's getting overly drowsy. He might do the rest all by himself...this is a fantasy, after all.

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 9:08:24 PM

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The problem with trying to rape a guy is that once you give him something that is potent enough to make him incapable of struggling, it will also make it impossible for him to get or maintain an erection (assuming that's the kind of sex you're talking about). The safest (keep in mind that it's still not safe, it's just safer than most methods) method is to use is alcohol . Everyone has been to the drunken point when you lack the ability to run, walk straight or climb stairs...just get him wasted and you should be able to have your way with him. A bonus with alcohol is that the important parts will work when the time comes. Fantasy rape is a cool idea, but too hard to pull off in a realistic way. Good luck.

Yeah, that's the hardest part (no pun intended!) My idea was to have him put on a cock ring before it happens to assist in keeping the blood there. Of course that would deminish the surprise element but sacrifices must be made ;) Also, about the alcohol, sadly he doesn't even drink on a normal day. Then again, he would have a really low tolerance so maybe it's not so bad an idea.

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/24/2007 11:49:44 PM

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Slip him a viagra while you are doping his ass up!

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/25/2007 1:04:38 AM

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My best friend is gay and loves extreme bondage. He has arranged several times for a group of 4 skin head men to Kidnap him. He tells them 4 dates of where he will be and when and tells them his limits and the rest is upto them. They use GHB or geebee as I know it and have taken him from a club before after geebeeing him up and bundled him into a van ( you would be suprised how easily then can do it in the middle of Birmingham. He is then gang "raped" and left in an agreed place. After a week he then starts to recieve picture messages that show him what he had done. He absolutely loves this, I find it frightening lol Ive picked him up twice from a session and he has been so so so so happy and not hurt to a point I would be worried about him. The pictures look graphic but then also look like well managed scenes. Ive had a coffee with several of the men involved and they were all lovely too.
Its not something I would want to play with but when organised correctly it appears to be something quite a few people can enjoy what ever floats your boat innit !!!!

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/25/2007 7:14:07 AM

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Why not put a cock ring on him every time you go out to eat? There for, he thinks it will happen soon, but he doesn't know when. I would be inclined to get him sloshed, though if you have never seen him drunk, might want to do a run thru with that. (sometimes people can get nasty or belligerant while drunk.) Other then that, Valerian would be good, though not sure how you would slip that in his drink, without anyone noticing

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/25/2007 7:30:56 AM

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A bonus with alcohol is that the important parts will work when the time comes.

You are still quite young aren't you. That may be true for you and/or your friends, but i know many more guys who once they drink, there will be no chance for sex (without viagra anyhow). This happens with some guys after only a few beers and once they get drunk enough to be completely out of control getting it up is next to impossible.

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RE: Consensual Date Rape Fantasy - 5/25/2007 3:34:15 PM

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I wish you luck in trying out your fantasy but would suggest you don't use valerian unless he has had it before, I was recently given some by a friend and I reacted very badly to it, gave me palpitations and was quite a scary experience

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